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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 03:00pm
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A coach BEING on the field is covered. A coach issuing instructions and directly affecting play is not. (If you, as umpire, did not feel the coach directly affected anything, then by all means just eject ... but it seemed obvious to me that the umpire in the OP DID feel like the coach directly affected play.)

Certainly a coach being on the field is covered in the book, even in a live ball situation.

However, the penalty for this infraction is not obstruction.

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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 03:10pm
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Certainly a coach being on the field is covered in the book, even in a live ball situation.

However, the penalty for this infraction is not obstruction.

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Thanks. Good think I didn't say it was. What's your point?
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 03:33pm
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Thanks. Good think I didn't say it was. What's your point?
Just happened to use your quote, but as you know my point as always is to keep it in the frame of reference of the rules.

Just for the readers who might be a little confused.

Sorry if that offended you.

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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 03:38pm
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I see it this way...

either

a) you feel the pitcher would not have recieved the instructions had the coach been on the bench

b) the coach being on the field or in the dugout made no difference, the pitcher would have recieved that instruction anyway

I'm going to lean with a, because frankly the coach is a freaking moron and since I have to make a decision that could go either way, I'm going to choose to screw the team that had a coach standing on the field during the play. They deserve to be punished.

Its much the same thing as the banger at first where the SS makes a nice play in the hole vs. the easy play that is bobbled and made alot closer than neccessary, IMO.

And if there was nobody at this game and the pitcher definatly would have gotten the message regardless, then I may just eject because I'm not ending this situation with a "don't do it again". There will either be a penalty or an ejection. No way this clown gets away with it.

I know my words are a little harsh, but that's how I feel about this one. Plus I'm in a pretty blunt mood.
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