Visiting HC crosses the Chalk line

[sargee7]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Perhaps the terminology was improper... but if you don't see the defense gaining some advantage from having a coach perched in the middle of the field to direct traffic, then I worry about your judgement. Perhaps the more accurate call would have been not OBS, but instead using 9.01c to nullify the advantage gained by having the coach on the field - and advancing the runners just as he did when he called it OBS.

Same outcome without having to justify calling OBS and possibly a protest. That might work.

[bluezebra]

Coach crosses line during live ball action, AFTER being warned not to, he's heading to the parking lot. And award bases as if there was actual obstruction.

Bob

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

Coach crosses line during live ball action, AFTER being warned not to, he's heading to the parking lot. And award bases as if there was actual obstruction.

Bob

BlueZebra:

You hit the nail on the head. I had this exact same play two years ago in a USSSA Girls' 14U Fast Pitch Tournament. R3 on 3rd and the B walks on four straight pitches. The B/R goes flying down toward 1st while at the same time the defensive HC (she couldn't have been more than 22 or 23 yrs old) comes flying out of the dugout screaming TIME, TIME. She blows right through my stop sign and is half way between the 3rd base foul line and the pitcher's circle by the time the B/R was reaching 1st base. As soon as she crossed the foul line into LBT, I called time. I informed her she had committed obstruction and awarded the B/R 2nd base and R3 home, after which I sent the HC to the parking lot. Every umpire I talked to said that I handled the situation correctly. I do not see my play as any different than the one in the OP.

MTD, Sr.

[UmpJM]

MTD,

What did the coach do that impeded the runners' progress?

I don't know ASA rules, but in a baseball game, I assume you "judged" that, absent the moron coach's actions, the BR would have obtained 2B and the R3 would have scored. What on earth led you to such a judgement?

Also, why did you call "Time" when the moron coach crossed the foul line? In baseball, that would be in violation of Rule 5.10.

Good call on the eject.

I think the rest of it was really poor officiating and you gave the moron coach (actually, her replacement) valid grounds for a protest. I can't understand why you'd be so generous to such a moron. Heck, might as well just give her a "head butt".

JM

[charliej47]

I read over my original post and realized I left out the part where the VHC had asked for "TIME" as he step over the chalk line and I had told him to "Wait please" while the R3 was going to 1st. and R3 was taking off for 3rd.

[David B]

Originally Posted by charliej47

I read over my original post and realized I left out the part where the VHC had asked for "TIME" as he step over the chalk line and I had told him to "Wait please" while the R3 was going to 1st. and R3 was taking off for 3rd.

We could debate all day the after effects of the play; however, the bottomline is that with good game management this should not happen.

One of the things that we cover with coaches in pregame should be to remind coaches that they should be in the dugouts (other thread), and that when they want to enter the field they should wait for all play to be over.

This would and should prevent this type of play, and also the times that a coach might want to come on the field to discuss a rule.

Thanks
David