What does PU do?

[RPatrino]

I'm with UmpJM here...step up, tell you partner , "ive got this one, Bill"...and bang him out. After the game tell your parnter his *** called and wants his head out of their right now!!!

[DTQ_Blue]

As for the mgr., do you let those kinds of comments go? My partner just lost track of # of outs so he didn't see the play. To broadcast to the whole field that neither of us saw the play is in effect saying that I wasn't doing my job; to me that's personal. I told him to keep his comments to himself and we played on. I later told the mgr. that he could have asked my partner to ask me for help. I think he understood where I was coming from.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by DTQ_Blue

As for the mgr., do you let those kinds of comments go? My partner just lost track of # of outs so he didn't see the play. To broadcast to the whole field that neither of us saw the play is in effect saying that I wasn't doing my job; to me that's personal. I told him to keep his comments to himself and we played on. I later told the mgr. that he could have asked my partner to ask me for help. I think he understood where I was coming from.

Mistake number 1 was losing track of the outs. Okay, it happens. Bigger mistake, anticipating the play and not watching the ball. The ball will take you to the play.

[TussAgee11]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Mistake number 1 was losing track of the outs. Okay, it happens. Bigger mistake, anticipating the play and not watching the ball. The ball will take you to the play.

I don't think anticiapting the play is a mistake. The problem is he anticipated the wrong play because he didn't know the outs. I agree with eye on the ball, and it will take you where you need to be, but if you don't anticipate a bit, you may not be in the best postion.

Anticipation (on where the play is going to be) = good

Back to the ball = bad

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

I don't think anticiapting the play is a mistake. The problem is he anticipated the wrong play because he didn't know the outs. I agree with eye on the ball, and it will take you where you need to be, but if you don't anticipate a bit, you may not be in the best postion.

Anticipation (on where the play is going to be) = good

Back to the ball = bad

Maybe I worded it clumsily but we agree. It's like an ump who turns to second base on a steal attempt before the ball has passed him. Eventually he's going to catch one with the back of his head.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

I don't think anticiapting the play is a mistake. The problem is he anticipated the wrong play because he didn't know the outs. I agree with eye on the ball, and it will take you where you need to be, but if you don't anticipate a bit, you may not be in the best postion.

Anticipation (on where the play is going to be) = good

Back to the ball = bad

I agree. The problem is not anticipating the play, but how he is reacting to that anticipation. Nothing is going to happen at 3rd until the ball gets there so there was no reason for him to look there before he saw where the throw was going.

We are all going to anticipate wrong from time to time for various reasons, but the error was in not waiting to confirm where the play was going to be rather than in anticipating.

[sargee7]

Originally Posted by DTQ_Blue

As for the mgr., do you let those kinds of comments go? My partner just lost track of # of outs so he didn't see the play. To broadcast to the whole field that neither of us saw the play is in effect saying that I wasn't doing my job; to me that's personal. I told him to keep his comments to himself and we played on. I later told the mgr. that he could have asked my partner to ask me for help. I think he understood where I was coming from.

DTQ, I agree with what the others had said about taking the call for your partner and if that had happened then there probably wouldn't have been a comment from the coaches. Having said that, since it went the way it did, I wouldn't wait for the coach to ask my partner for help, knowing that my partner got crossed up on the count and wasn't where he should have been, I would have initiated the conference myself and gotten the call right.

Plus, I got to say that your comment about this being Senior LL and coaches not knowing who has the responsibility where could be a little wrong. At this level the coaches have most likely been doing this for quite a while and should be very well versed on which blue should be where and calling what.

[DTQ_Blue]

The other interesting thing about the play is how bad my partner felt for missing the play and how it affected him for the rest of the game. Prior to the play we were making the eye contact and signaling each other. After, not the case. His head was hanging and when I could get eye contact with him, his signals were not crisp. I think he was hard on himself and beat himself up mentally for the rest of the game. A lot of people don't realize how much we want to call a game right. So much so that in some cases we overreact against ourselves when we make a mistake.

I appreciate all your comments. Next time (if there is one) I won't let this happen. Next time I see him, I'll share your advice about what I could have done to help him.

[LMan]

It's hard to get back into the 'zone' after you kick a call, but that's also a learned skill that comes with time. Umpires can't 'take plays off' like players sometimes do.

It's like being a cornerback who goofs and allows that 50-yard bomb to a wide receiver..somehow, in the space of about a minute, you gotta line back up across from that guy, put that mistake out of your head, and play ball.

[Rcichon]

Breaching protocol [and poaching your partner's call] here would have made you both look better IMHO.

At the least, give him the 'I have a call RTFN' look. After all, he should not call something he did not see. He should have pointed at you here for input before calling anything.

Verbal & non verbal communication should be covered in a meeting between you both before the game.