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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 03:37am
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2 man fly ball mechanic question

How do you guys handle the fly ball to the right side of the infield as a BU in A? Some guys I work with like to have PU take all fly balls on the infield and have the BU pivot inside, others like the BU to stay near his A position on fly balls to the first and second basemen and take the catch/no catch while the PU comes up to take the BR to second if the ball is dropped. Different mechanics manuals and sites I have seen state differently on subject.
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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 04:01am
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Some guys I work with like to have PU take all fly balls on the infield and have the BU pivot inside, others like the BU to stay near his A position on fly balls to the first and second basemen and take the catch/no catch while the PU comes up to take the BR to second if the ball is dropped. Different mechanics manuals and sites I have seen state differently on subject.
In general, most mechanic's sets are based on the BU deciding when to go out and watch a ball or when not to. The BU has the center fielder to the right field line as their primary coverage. It is up to the BU all the way whether they decide to go out and look at a ball in the outfield or not. It has nothing to do with different mechanics, because those are the mechanics. The mechanics are what give the BU the option to read the play and move accordingly. When the BU moves accordingly, the PU covers the other things that the BU left. In other words there is no one size fits all coverage all the time no matter what.

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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 11:17am
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I think that he was asking about coverage of a flyball in the infield between
1st and 2nd base.
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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 11:34am
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i'd like to see the mechanics manual you referenced that says the BU should not come in and pivot on a fly ball to the right side of the infield. if the ball drops and the b/r is motoring the whole way, good luck making the call at 2B from the line... iow, pivot.
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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 11:39am
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In that instance, the plate man takes the runner to second in what i have seen (as if the BU had gone out to right field).
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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 12:54pm
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You can come in and pivot, and risk becoming a factor in the play.

There is no harm in taking a few steps into fair territory, toward 2b, if you can so you are not taking the play from the line, read/react to the play and if it's dropped you are in a great position to move into the infield.
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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 01:40pm
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In that instance, the plate man takes the runner to second in what i have seen (as if the BU had gone out to right field).
in the words of jim evans, that is patchwork umpiring.

if you become a factor in the play, you are in the wrong place. go in, pivot, and stay out of the way. there is no set-in-stone place to make your pivot, so vary it based on what the situation dictates. i'd still like to see the mechanics reference you said states that this is ok.
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Old Sat Apr 14, 2007, 05:31pm
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How do you guys handle the fly ball to the right side of the infield as a BU in A? Some guys I work with like to have PU take all fly balls on the infield and have the BU pivot inside, others like the BU to stay near his A position on fly balls to the first and second basemen and take the catch/no catch while the PU comes up to take the BR to second if the ball is dropped. Different mechanics manuals and sites I have seen state differently on subject.
PU takes all fly balls in the infield, BU should come in and pivot and watch the tag of 1B. However, on routine fly balls to F3 or F4 it would be rare for a batter-runner to advance on a dropped fly ball so I tend not to come into the grass and pivot but to get a position in the dirt where I know I can beat the runner to 2B if I need to. He has to run 90 feet and I would only need to run about 45 to get a good angle.
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