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Old Wed Mar 21, 2007, 04:57pm
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#50--"A pitcher may attempt a legal pick-off from both the windup and set position." Now I said True while thinking you can step off the rubber. I could not find any direct language saying this was false. I am still looking.
FYI- Look at 6.1.2 "With his feet in the windup position, the pitcher may only deliver a pitch or step backward of the pitcher's plate with his pivot foot first."

I suppose that this is the the reason you got it wrong, he cant pick off a runner while in contact. You know the correct ruling, but missed the question. No sweat.
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Old Wed Mar 21, 2007, 05:12pm
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#74--"When no appeal has been made on an improper batter, the next batter shall be the batter whose name follows that of the proper batter who should have been at bat."
I would say this is false. If no appeal of the improper batter is (ever) made, the improper batter's at bat is "legitimized". Therefore, the next batter should be the the player whose name follows that of the improper batter who actually was at bat and was not appealed.

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Old Wed Mar 21, 2007, 06:27pm
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FYI- Look at 6.1.2 "With his feet in the windup position, the pitcher may only deliver a pitch or step backward of the pitcher's plate with his pivot foot first."

I suppose that this is the the reason you got it wrong, he cant pick off a runner while in contact. You know the correct ruling, but missed the question. No sweat.
I agree, but that is not how I was looking at it. I guess I would have liked it if they said, "While in contact with the rubber." But you can step back legally and try to pick off someone. As you said no sweat. You live and learn.

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Old Wed Mar 21, 2007, 11:21pm
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I agree, but that is not how I was looking at it. I guess I would have liked it if they said, "While in contact with the rubber." But you can step back legally and try to pick off someone. As you said no sweat. You live and learn.

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If you think about it, if you step off the rubber, you're not in ANY position, so stepping off the rubber shouldn't have been considered in the question.

Also Jeff, if you did get a copy of the test and answers, could you send me a pm?

Don't worry. I live in PA where it's "one and done." (You take your test when you initially start umpiring and you never have to re-test your entire officiating career).
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Old Thu Mar 22, 2007, 11:35am
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I agree, but that is not how I was looking at it. I guess I would have liked it if they said, "While in contact with the rubber." But you can step back legally and try to pick off someone. As you said no sweat. You live and learn.

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Once F1 steps back, he's not in the wind-up position. So, by specifying the positions in the question, FED *was* stating that F1 was on the rubber.
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Old Thu Mar 22, 2007, 12:13pm
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That is still semantics if you ask me.

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Old Thu Mar 22, 2007, 01:49pm
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So a jab step move "from the windup", is only considered a pickoff from the rubber when awarding bases on an overthrow, but not considered a pickoff move from the rubber?

now im confused!!
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Old Thu Mar 22, 2007, 05:08pm
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So a jab step move "from the windup", is only considered a pickoff from the rubber when awarding bases on an overthrow, but not considered a pickoff move from the rubber?

now im confused!!
This one's simple...
In FED a "jab step" move to pick off a runner from the windup position is illegal, and a balk.
Don't be confused. In FED, a pitcher in the windup position on the rubber can either start his winup and deliver to the batter, or step off the rubber with his pivot foot first.
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Old Thu Mar 22, 2007, 06:57pm
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So a jab step move "from the windup", is only considered a pickoff from the rubber when awarding bases on an overthrow, but not considered a pickoff move from the rubber?

now im confused!!
Who said this, and what is a "jab step from the wind up?"

In any event, a jab step is not a legal disengagement (which only occurs by stepping abck off the rubber), so all the "on the rubber" rules apply.
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