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I would suggest using the rule and case book on that one. Both have it right. That is... it's illegal while in contact with the rubber to go to the mouth regardless with runners on or not, balk with. Look at 6-2-1A in the case book. Those wonderful Fed interps or is it twerps... have it wrong. This will also keep you from pulling out your teeth and hair tying to figure out how they could come up with such a ruling. I also keeps it in line with all other rules sets. That was their intent IMHO.
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BTW- any of you older guys remember if FED ever had the rule book even remotely close to OBR as far as wording and layout? I've been doing this for about 9 years, and the first time I read the FED book, I was blown away.
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Illinois requires a coach attend the rules meeting so they have heard the same thing we have, and should not have to deal with that of a coach saying but in the book it states.......
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Any comment JM?
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I was not implying sneaking anything past any one I was just stating that Illinois has the coaches’ attend the rules meeting.
The umpire would not have to tell the coach that it states one thing in the rule book and the umpire is calling it another way. By state association they have adopted a different interpretation of the current rule. |
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It would be interesting to see how the FED responds to a written statement from IL that they refuse to call this.
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Just got my latest Referee. They're publishing that the pitcher can go to his mouth while on the rubber anytime before he commits to pitch. That is, in the wind up, he can go to his mouth after stepping on the rubber before bringing his hands together, as long as he wipes. From the set same thing. ON the rubber, takes his sign, brings his hand up and goes to his mouth, wipes, then comes set, legal. Of course this is in direct violation of 6-2-4-D. Just a terrible rule no doubt. Of course, we have a rules committee member in our association, however, he will not return emails or calls. Imaging that. So, call it as you see best. Good luck
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At my rules interp meeting we got the following
Off the rubber - wipe - NO PENALTY Off the rubber - no-wipe - BALL On the rubber - no runners - either way - BALL On the rubber - runners - either way - BALK They have basically said they are ignoring the rule change and reverting to last year. These interpretations came off of the IHSA rules interpretation powerpoint presentation. |
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How much more ridiculous could it get?
Here's the interpretation given by our rules interpretor last night:
Off the rubber With or with out runners Wipe- nothing No wipe- ball On the rubber With runners, in the stretch position Wipe- nothing No wipe- ball With runners, wind up position, if both hands are at F1's side Wipe- nothing No wipe- ball If glove is in front of body, pitching hand at side Wipe or no wipe- balk What is going on here? Is there a good reason for FED to not just use OBR rule in this instance? ![]()
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Is it me, or is this getting out of hand?
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![]() I don't remember the specific issue, but a rule change a few years ago was treated the same way -- different states had different interps for the first year. |
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