Coaches outside dugout

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by David B

Now if you could just give me the rule to back up your decision.

Sure the bucket is not supposed to be on the field but it still requires "intent"

Same as with the photograper, kids warming up in live ball territory, etc.,

Thansk
David

Somewhere, there's a FED ruling (might be in one of the yearly interps) to the effect that an umpire should judge what would have happened to a thrown ball that hits equipment left outside the dugout, and rule accordingly.

IMO, the benefit of the doubt goes to the team that didn't have the equipment / bucket outside the dugout.

[UmpJM]

Bob,

From FED 1-3-7:

PENALTY: If loose equipment interferes with play, the umpire may call an out(s), award bases or return runners, based on his judgement and the circumstances concerning the play.

JM

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Somewhere, there's a FED ruling (might be in one of the yearly interps) to the effect that an umpire should judge what would have happened to a thrown ball that hits equipment left outside the dugout, and rule accordingly.

IMO, the benefit of the doubt goes to the team that didn't have the equipment / bucket outside the dugout.

You're right.
Fed 1-3-7
Under penalty
If loose equipment interferes with play, the umpire may call an out(s), award bases or return runners, based on his judgement and the circumstances concerning the play.

I love these total judgement penalties

[Daryl H. Long]

1): Equipment must be inside the dugout or in a dead ball area.

NF Rule 1-3-7...loose equipment, such as gloves, bats, helmets, or catcher's gear, of either team, may not be on or near the field

Penalty: If loose equipment interferes with the play, the umpire may call an out(s), award bases or return runners, based on his judgement and the circumstances concerning the play.

2) People must be inside the dugout unless authorized to be out.

NF Rule3-3-1a.

A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not leave the dugout during a live ball for an unauthorized purpose.

Penalty: At the end of playing action, the umpire shall issue a warning to the coach of the team involved and the next offender on that team shall be ejected.

Therefore, it is illegal for a coach or any player etc to sit on a bucket outside the dugout at any time. Nor may any equipment be left lying in live ball area. Umpires must be diligent to make sure these two basic rules are followed. I mention it briefly at pregame meeting with coaches as a preventative measure and so far I have never had to invoke any of the penalties listed above.

[DG]

Coaches sitting outside the dugout on buckets is no longer a problem around here. Players coming out to congratulate runners who have scored still is.

[Daryl H. Long]

Originally Posted by DG

Coaches sitting outside the dugout on buckets is no longer a problem around here. Players coming out to congratulate runners who have scored still is.

It is OK for players to come out of the dugout to congratulate scoring runners if the ball has become dead because of home run or other awarded bases during a dead ball.

The prohibition is only while the ball is LIVE.

[DG]

Originally Posted by Daryl H. Long

It is OK for players to come out of the dugout to congratulate scoring runners if the ball has become dead because of home run or other awarded bases during a dead ball.

The prohibition is only while the ball is LIVE.

No kidding!