My plate mechanics

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

NO ONE will care weather you are using gray, navy, or black ball bags. It is a personal decision by the umpire.

Dan, I'd have to disagree with this statement. If you've paid attention for
the length of time you've been here, you've probably seen someone intone that how one looks when they take the field says a lot. Coaches and players
size you up from the start, making a judgement about you based on how you are dressed. Dirty shoes ? You look lazy. Too lazy to clean and shine them.
Wrinkled shirt ? Same. Lazy. Hat or ballbags that do not match your choice
of shirt color ? Stupid. Too stupid to be able to match colors.
Please bear in mind, I'm not calling names, just giving you an idea of what
can go through people's minds. Of course, I'm sure you don't care what they think.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

Dan, I'd have to disagree with this statement. If you've paid attention for
the length of time you've been here, you've probably seen someone intone that how one looks when they take the field says a lot. Coaches and players
size you up from the start, making a judgement about you based on how you are dressed. Dirty shoes ? You look lazy. Too lazy to clean and shine them.
Wrinkled shirt ? Same. Lazy. Hat or ballbags that do not match your choice
of shirt color ? Stupid. Too stupid to be able to match colors.
Please bear in mind, I'm not calling names, just giving you an idea of what
can go through people's minds. Of course, I'm sure you don't care what they think.

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

You have now found my ignore list. You are an idiot.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

Well, I tried. I won't make that mistake again. I think I'll join Rich.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

Pay attention in English class.

Really? I don't recall any of the MLB umpires wearing black ball bags with their navy shirt when they were part of their uniform. But, maybe that's just me.

If you really believe you look professional, why did you ask for comments on anything? In addition, after several people have tried to help you, and you fire back with the "so what, that's how I do it and I'm not changing" attitude. If that's the case, fine, you're not going to become a better umpire, therefore you won't move up -- but whatever. More so, why the hell even bother asking and wasting everyone's time?? What a waste of bandwidth!

Like the others, I am certainly done with this nonsense.

[LomUmp]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care. they will think what they wanna think. I wear black ball bags and thats it.

And around here we do not have an "evaluator". We have an UIC. He does not care which of the 3 colors we use, but LL dress code specifically states we are allowed grey, navy, or black. I have chosen black. If we get a new regulation then i will be happy to meet it. I look professional.

Hey all,

Dan, let me 'splain something to you.....
1. I am a UIC for our local LL, which leads to #2.
2. The reason he doesn't care which of the three colors you use is because he is trying to make sure their are enough umpires for the games. If he said you could only wear grey shirts, then he would lose umpires who don't want to come out of their own pocket to buy something.
3. GROW THE F#CK UP! Some of these umpires have been doing it for longer than you have been alive.
4. You look nothing like a professional umpire. As said MANY times before, LOSE THE WRISTBANDS, cut the straps on your mask, match your colors of ball bags and shirts and hats. I didn't notice on the video so I won't even go into the appropriate color of undershirt for each shirt.
5. Learn the difference between an umpire who does LL, and a LL umpire.
6. You ask this group for comments, you will get, for the most part, correct comments.

LomUmp

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by LomUmp

Hey all,

Dan, let me 'splain something to you.....
1. I am a UIC for our local LL, which leads to #2.
2. The reason he doesn't care which of the three colors you use is because he is trying to make sure their are enough umpires for the games. If he said you could only wear grey shirts, then he would lose umpires who don't want to come out of their own pocket to buy something.
3. GROW THE F#CK UP! Some of these umpires have been doing it for longer than you have been alive.
4. You look nothing like a professional umpire. As said MANY times before, LOSE THE WRISTBANDS, cut the straps on your mask, match your colors of ball bags and shirts and hats. I didn't notice on the video so I won't even go into the appropriate color of undershirt for each shirt.
5. Learn the difference between an umpire who does LL, and a LL umpire.
6. You ask this group for comments, you will get, for the most part, correct comments.

LomUmp

no need to go into undershirt color. Red or Blue for navy, blue for light blue shirt.

and to lastly clarify something- our local association hats are black, not navy.

[BigUmp56]

I'll bet the UIC of this league doesn't much care what colors his umpires wear either.




Dan, you're really making an @$$ out of yourself by not at least listening to the advice you're being given. You've still haven't explained to me how wearing those ridiculous wrist bands helps you as an umpire.


Tim.

[LomUmp]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

no need to go into undershirt color. Red or Blue for navy, blue for light blue shirt.

and to lastly clarify something- our local association hats are black, not navy.

Hey all,

And to clarify, do you belong to the local association?

If you do, hasn't anyone in said association had a talk with you that sounds something like this thread?

LomUmp

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by LomUmp

Hey all,

And to clarify, do you belong to the local association?

If you do, hasn't anyone in said association had a talk with you that sounds something like this thread?

LomUmp

After he explained that he doesn't have an evaluator and that he has only a UIC, I have to think he's not being honest when he says he belongs to an association. Most associations don't allow 15 year old members.


Tim.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

After he explained that he doesn't have an evaluator and that he has only a UIC, I have to think he's not being honest when he says he belongs to an association. Most associations don't allow 15 year old members.


Tim.

Tim,

Yes I do belong to the LL D13 Umpire Assoc. I have copys of the bylaws, and get emailed our news letters, go to the meetings, and pay $15 dues each season. The bylaws were changed before i came along to allow anyone to join. for instance, there is a 16 Yr. old girls who regularly umpires, and yes shes in uniform..daaadeeedaa..and all that. But i think you guys over react to such a minor thing. To explain my thoughts on wristbands....they do help with sweat. but anyhow, i still dont get the whole ball bag issue. our district hats are black(not navy). No one really gives a $hit which of the three colors you are using. all go well with what color. MiLB- sure they are professionals, but still wear BLACK. Now, can we please move on with our life?

[BBUMP99]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

...Most associations don't allow 15 year old members...

I am 16, almost 17...I joined my local assoc. when I was 14...also, I have never seen anyone wear wristbands in my association, except a few of us elected to wear black bands after the passing of one of our members who was a regular at the park where I work...also, most associations offer a black hat and a navy hat...I am ABUA registered, and have both colors of hats...for league play we use whatever color hats the particular league has, but for non-league tournaments, our association hats come in black or navy...

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

no need to go into undershirt color. Red or Blue for navy, blue for light blue shirt.

and to lastly clarify something- our local association hats are black, not navy.

As said before, nobody is out here to give you bad advice. If you want to move past LL, "TAKE THE MEDICINE!"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care.

Then why did you ask for opinions?

As long as you are at the level you are at, then the wristbands and ball bag colors don't matter. The coaches, fans, other umpires, UIC know you for your umpiring and "look past" these items.

But, the first time you try to move up, these items will become an issue. Coaches, players, etc. will be more likely to accept your call on your first "banger" if you look the part, and more likely to challenge it if you don't.

[lawump]

For what its worth...I have worn black ball bags no matter what color shirt I wore...including my professional career...and I was never deducted on any evaluation for wearing such bags. (For what its worth I have never owned, nor worn a cream, grey or red shirt.)

A quick survey of the pictures at

http://www.umpirepictures.com/

showed that some international league umpires wore black bags with their navy shirt, while others wore navy bags with their navy shirt.

Personally, I like black shoes, black belt, black bags, black mask and black indicator. I just think they all tie in nicely together. I know some use a metal (silver) indicator, or navy belt and/or bag etc. But to steal a line from Wesley Snipes, with me, always bet on black.

P.S. Lose the damn wristbands.