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[LomUmp]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

no need to go into undershirt color. Red or Blue for navy, blue for light blue shirt.

and to lastly clarify something- our local association hats are black, not navy.

Hey all,

And to clarify, do you belong to the local association?

If you do, hasn't anyone in said association had a talk with you that sounds something like this thread?

LomUmp

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by LomUmp

Hey all,

And to clarify, do you belong to the local association?

If you do, hasn't anyone in said association had a talk with you that sounds something like this thread?

LomUmp

After he explained that he doesn't have an evaluator and that he has only a UIC, I have to think he's not being honest when he says he belongs to an association. Most associations don't allow 15 year old members.


Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by DG

I own 3 ball bags, all blue. I use two for a game and the 3rd is a backup, an older bag I just haven't thrown away yet. It is a different brand than the other two, those are identical.

I only have navy, power blue, and cream shirts, so I dont' have to worry about what goes with black shirts, but according to some here I should be wearing black bags with the cream shirt.

Until this thread I never gave the bag color much of a thought. It's interesting though because I do give thought to mask color with shirt. I have three masks all with doeskin pads, black, navy and red. The navy shirt with red trim is the only one I will wear the red mask with. I wear the navy mask with navy or powder blue shirt, and the black mask is used with any of them. The black one is the only one with a hangy thingy on it so that sometimes plays into the decision on which to wear, ie who is catching today.

Last year I made a comment about the red mask with black harness and caught some crap from some posters here that the harness should be red. It was a color fashion statement that was like water on a duck's back for me. I could care less. I got the mask on tremendous sale, had a spare set of doeskins and a spare black harness and voila', an item I could use was born.

I have navy and black undershirts if I think they will be visible and when I know they will not be it don't matter. I have worn white under plate gear. I have one red undershirt and I only wear it if working a crew where all the base guys want to use red so I go along.

All my hats are blue. For cold weather my gloves are black and my cold gear for the head is navy (only worn on bases).

Tomorrow I will go back to not giving a thought about my ball bag color, because I only have three, they are all blue, I only use two of them, and nobody I know personnally cares.... To each his own, unless you are trying to impress someone else.

Well, for someone who cares so much about mask pad color, it seems odd that you would ignore common sense fashion (as well as the MLB example set), and wear navy ball bags with a cream shirt. Cream shirt, black bags and hat. That is just the way it's done here on this planet. Any association authorizing cream shirts would definitely call for black ball bags and hats.

[Dave Hensley]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Well, for someone who cares so much about mask pad color, it seems odd that you would ignore common sense fashion (as well as the MLB example set), and wear navy ball bags with a cream shirt. Cream shirt, black bags and hat. That is just the way it's done here on this planet. Any association authorizing cream shirts would definitely call for black ball bags and hats.

Only because the trim on the cream shirt is black. If it were navy, then navy hat and ballbags would be appropriate. For the cream shirt I have, and the only one I've seen, the trim is black and therefore the ballbags and hat should be black.

The color of protective equipment - mask, chest protector, shinguards - is not part of the standard fashion dictates, although I suppose it would be possible to come up with something bizarre enough to be considered a no-no in the mask/pad/harness combination, if one were trying really hard.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Dave Hensley

Only because the trim on the cream shirt is black. If it were navy, then navy hat and ballbags would be appropriate. For the cream shirt I have, and the only one I've seen, the trim is black and therefore the ballbags and hat should be black.

I thought that kind of went without saying. The only cream shirts on the market have black trim.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

no need to go into undershirt color. Red or Blue for navy, blue for light blue shirt.

and to lastly clarify something- our local association hats are black, not navy.

As said before, nobody is out here to give you bad advice. If you want to move past LL, "TAKE THE MEDICINE!"

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

After he explained that he doesn't have an evaluator and that he has only a UIC, I have to think he's not being honest when he says he belongs to an association. Most associations don't allow 15 year old members.


Tim.

Tim,

Yes I do belong to the LL D13 Umpire Assoc. I have copys of the bylaws, and get emailed our news letters, go to the meetings, and pay $15 dues each season. The bylaws were changed before i came along to allow anyone to join. for instance, there is a 16 Yr. old girls who regularly umpires, and yes shes in uniform..daaadeeedaa..and all that. But i think you guys over react to such a minor thing. To explain my thoughts on wristbands....they do help with sweat. but anyhow, i still dont get the whole ball bag issue. our district hats are black(not navy). No one really gives a $hit which of the three colors you are using. all go well with what color. MiLB- sure they are professionals, but still wear BLACK. Now, can we please move on with our life?

[Dave Hensley]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

MiLB- sure they are professionals, but still wear BLACK.

Dan, it's not what you don't know that bothers me; it's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Your right, i dont really care.

Then why did you ask for opinions?

As long as you are at the level you are at, then the wristbands and ball bag colors don't matter. The coaches, fans, other umpires, UIC know you for your umpiring and "look past" these items.

But, the first time you try to move up, these items will become an issue. Coaches, players, etc. will be more likely to accept your call on your first "banger" if you look the part, and more likely to challenge it if you don't.

[lawump]

For what its worth...I have worn black ball bags no matter what color shirt I wore...including my professional career...and I was never deducted on any evaluation for wearing such bags. (For what its worth I have never owned, nor worn a cream, grey or red shirt.)

A quick survey of the pictures at

http://www.umpirepictures.com/

showed that some international league umpires wore black bags with their navy shirt, while others wore navy bags with their navy shirt.

Personally, I like black shoes, black belt, black bags, black mask and black indicator. I just think they all tie in nicely together. I know some use a metal (silver) indicator, or navy belt and/or bag etc. But to steal a line from Wesley Snipes, with me, always bet on black.

P.S. Lose the damn wristbands.

[ctblu40]

I've been trying to keep silent for a while now, but this is too much...

Dan, please, for the love of all that's holy, lose the freakin wristbands. Just about everyone here has told you this, but you "don't care."

You seem to back up all of your shortcomings with "around here, nobody says anything." So grasshopper, if a pitch hits the batters hand and you don't call 'Time', is that OK because nobody says anything? This argument is weak at best.

If you desire to move up to Sr LL, then HS, then maybe NCAA, learn to take advice. Notice I didn't say criticism. People here are giving you the advice for which you asked.

After you work a game, do you ever ask for feedback from a veteran? If this is how you respond to said feedback, soon, you'll get the "you're doin fine" routine, but you won't improve.

Sheesh!

[LLPA13UmpDan]

OK, i admit im sorry i have been hasty here.

I will get stop wearing the wristbands, but the black bags are here to stay, as there is evidence here that black bags are acceptable. My shoes are black, my hat is black, my belt is black, and so are my ball bags.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Can I get an amen from the bobbleheads?

[BBUMP99]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

...Most associations don't allow 15 year old members...

I am 16, almost 17...I joined my local assoc. when I was 14...also, I have never seen anyone wear wristbands in my association, except a few of us elected to wear black bands after the passing of one of our members who was a regular at the park where I work...also, most associations offer a black hat and a navy hat...I am ABUA registered, and have both colors of hats...for league play we use whatever color hats the particular league has, but for non-league tournaments, our association hats come in black or navy...

[Dave Hensley]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

OK, i admit im sorry i have been hasty here.

I will get stop wearing the wristbands, but the black bags are here to stay, as there is evidence here that black bags are acceptable. My shoes are black, my hat is black, my belt is black, and so are my ball bags.

OK, we've got you 95% of the way there. Now trade in that navy shirt for a black or cream shirt, and you'll finally be completely and accurately color coordinated.