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SanDiegoSteve Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:27pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
Naw! What do you think I am, a cheap slut? :D

Why that's outrageous! I would never call you cheap!!!:)

Four-Oh Wed Jan 03, 2007 07:50pm

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Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan
there really is no "correct direction" I've seen it both ways, and not just on Umps...No laws or anything stating the direction, but the PC direction is the reveresed one for the right sleeve.

http://www.rangerjoes.com/images/1146.jpg

Just another one of those things its up to the individual organizations.

At least in my case, I wouldn't have to worry about the direction: symettricality rules! :)

Andrew (#40)
http://www.cbc.ca/cestlavie/images/canada_flag.gif

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jan 03, 2007 08:33pm

Or the very symmetrical flag of the French military:

http://www.worldpeace.no/filer/White-Flag.jpg

Four-Oh Wed Jan 03, 2007 09:02pm

Hilarious!!! :D

umpduck11 Wed Jan 03, 2007 09:52pm

Ahhh, France. They're always there when they need us. :rolleyes:

DG Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:07am

Symbolic of their worth.. in recent days.

DG Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:35am

They laid it out flat at the Sugar Bowl tonight so I guess the Flag Rules are not well known or simply ignored.

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/faqs/q07.htm

lawump Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:05am

I umpired in the minor leagues (not as a replacement, either). I wore black ball bags my entire minor league career. Being in the minors, that obviously meant I wore them with a navy pullover shirt.

As an aside, a brief viewing of the pictures at:

http://www.umpirepictures.com/

showed that some of the IL umpires last season wore a black ball bag with their navy shirt, and some wore blue.

Also, I was never deducted on any evaluation for wearing black ball bags.

Simply put, you are 100% incorrect in stating that black ball bags are innappropriate with a navy shirt. Quite the opposite, the black bag was the bag of choice for many MiLB umpires.

BigUmp56 Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:20am

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Originally Posted by lawump
I umpired in the minor leagues (not as a replacement, either). I wore black ball bags my entire minor league career. Being in the minors, that obviously meant I wore them with a navy pullover shirt.

As an aside, a brief viewing of the pictures at:

http://www.umpirepictures.com/

showed that some of the IL umpires last season wore a black ball bag with their navy shirt, and some wore blue.

Also, I was never deducted on any evaluation for wearing black ball bags.

Simply put, you are 100% incorrect in stating that black ball bags are innappropriate with a navy shirt. Quite the opposite, the black bag was the bag of choice for many MiLB umpires.


What is this signal used for? Is it to remind the PU he has the tag up of R3?


http://www.umpirepictures.com/Pictur...07_6%20093.jpg


Tim.

lawump Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:24am

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Originally Posted by BigUmp56
What is this signal used for? Is it to remind the PU he has the tag up of R3?


Tim.

I'm sure that this is a picture of that crew reminding one another of the first-to-third rotation as you suggested. I don't know how many runners are on base...but it does appear that U1 is in "B"...so the runners are either at first or first and third...which means the PU could rotate to third.

BBUMP99 Thu Jan 04, 2007 08:06pm

I believe the IL umpire being referred to wearing black bags is Lance Barksdale. If I am not mistaken, he is an MLB alternate or reserve or whatever they call it. That could be the reason for the black bags, i dont know, just my blind stab at it...

lawump Fri Jan 05, 2007 07:52am

The reason is because that color is his personal preference. At the time of the picture Barksdale was, indeed, a MLB reserve umpire. He's now the #1 umpire on the current permanent MLB roster (alphabetically speaking, of course).

AlabamaBlue Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:11am

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Originally Posted by DG
They laid it out flat at the Sugar Bowl tonight so I guess the Flag Rules are not well known or simply ignored.

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/faqs/q07.htm

When I was on the Air Force honor guard we routinely carried the flag horizontally just before folding it.

bbsbvb83 Fri Jan 05, 2007 01:57pm

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Originally Posted by btdt
Was thinking of putting American flag on my new shirts and jackets. Anyone know the edict and placement? Association doesn’t seem to have a policy.

As a general rule, the union (stars with blue background) of your flag patch should be worn closest to your heart, if you choose to wear one. That being said, it is technically improper to wear a US flag patch on an umpire's shirt as it is a violation of the United States Flag Code. If you wear one anyway, the best place is probably on the front of your shirt, with the union closest to your sternum. It is also okay to wear it on one shirt sleve, a couple of inches from the shoulder seam. If you chose to do this, make sure the union is pointing forward. The picture of the umpire with the black ball bag demonstrates how not to wear a flag patch. (You may have to do a little searching for the proper patch if you want to wear it on your right sleve.) The patch should NEVER be worn on the back of the shirt. (I was very disappointed with the MLB's patch placement following 9-11.) When in doubt as to proper flag display, contact a representative of your local VFW or American Legion.

AlabamaBlue Fri Jan 05, 2007 03:09pm

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Originally Posted by bbsbvb83
If you wear one anyway, the best place is probably on the front of your shirt, with the union closest to your sternum.

If it's worn on the front of your shirt the union should always be to the left as you're looking at the flag. The only time the union goes to the right is on sleeves and vehicles/aircraft.


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