Pitch I hate calling the most.

[nickrego]

After our game on Sunday, my son and I were talking about the pitch we both agree is the hardest / worst one to call;

The high curve that drops down (in theory) through the Strike Zone.

This is the most subjective pitch to call.

If the catcher sets up deep, the ball can drop behind the Strike Zone, but will be caught dead center of the Catcher's chest and in the middle of the plate. Never touched the zone, but to the entire world, it looks like a strike because of where the Catcher caught it. (yep, call it a strike, unless it came in way high)

If it does catch the zone, it will most likely be caught low, and look like a Ball to the rest of the world. (Call it a ball if caught really low, call it a strike if caught kind'a low)

Bottom line, it's not like when we use the way the Catcher caught the ball for a pitch that could go either way. This pitch is all about how / where it is caught. And at least 50% of everyone will disagree (not that it matters).

[LLPA13UmpDan]

I called the plate in a championship softball game, and had something very similar. The pitcher on the one team threw this one pitch, something along the line of a change up/curve. It would start out about eye level to someone, then when it crossed the plate, it would be about waist or below, then the catcher caught it about shin level. Tough pitch to call with that much break, never seen it before.

[TussAgee11]

Nick and others -

We've talked about the strike zone being a 5 sided prism that runs from knee to belt. Is it possible then for a pitch to come down into the "back" strikezone similar to one that comes from outside the plate and catches the back half of the plate?

Does anybody know what I mean? Kind of confusing...

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I called the plate in a championship softball game, and had something very similar. The pitcher on the one team threw this one pitch, something along the line of a change up/curve. It would start out about eye level to someone, then when it crossed the plate, it would be about waist or below, then the catcher caught it about shin level. Tough pitch to call with that much break, never seen it before.

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[LDUB]

Originally Posted by nickrego

After our game on Sunday, my son and I were talking about the pitch we both agree is the hardest / worst one to call;

The high curve that drops down (in theory) through the Strike Zone.

This is the most subjective pitch to call.

If the catcher sets up deep, the ball can drop behind the Strike Zone, but will be caught dead center of the Catcher's chest and in the middle of the plate. Never touched the zone, but to the entire world, it looks like a strike because of where the Catcher caught it. (yep, call it a strike, unless it came in way high)

If it does catch the zone, it will most likely be caught low, and look like a Ball to the rest of the world. (Call it a ball if caught really low, call it a strike if caught kind'a low)

Bottom line, it's not like when we use the way the Catcher caught the ball for a pitch that could go either way. This pitch is all about how / where it is caught. And at least 50% of everyone will disagree (not that it matters).

Maybe you should switch to a goalie style mask. That mask will solve all your problems.

[CJN]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Maybe you should switch to a goalie style mask. That mask will solve all your problems.

great post

[nickrego]

Well, I guess know one is up for discussing a REAL WORLD situation, rather than the MADE UP / WHAT IF / ARM CHAIR UMPIRE situations that make up the majority of this board.

Oh, and lets not forget the TROLL POSTS.

You know, at one time GmcGriffs was more popular than this board, and look what happened to it.

[BigUmp56]

Nick:

I'm guessing it wasn't much more than two months ago that we beat this to death here. That's probably why no one wants to do it again right now.

Tim.

[3appleshigh]

I would also say it is most obvious that the 12-6 curve is the hardest pitch to call, there really isn't anything else even close to that in difficulty.

[ozzy6900]

The Rising Fast Ball!!

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

The Rising Fast Ball!!

Johnny, what do we have for our winner ?

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

The Rising Fast Ball!!

I think I'd rather see that oldie but a goodie discussion resurrected rather than discuss how many leg openings there are in a pair of panties.


Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I think I'd rather see that oldie but a goodie discussion resurrected rather than discuss how many leg openings there are in a pair of panties.


Tim.

Oh, come on Tim...you know you'd rather talk about panties than just about anything!

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by CJN

great post

most definitely agreed

[SAump]

I find a 2 strike fastball to be the most difficult pitch to call when the catcher wants it and batter doesn't.