2nd trip by coach

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

It is never considered a trip to the mound if you remove the pitcher, even if you meet the pitcher at the mound to do it. When you remove the pitcher in OBR, the trip count starts over with the new pitcher. In FED, it does not add to the cumulative total of trips in a 7 inning game.

Yes, if the pitcher is removed it is considered a trip. Therefore after the first trip of the inning, that pitcher must pitch for the remainder of the inning or be removed from the game. He cannot stay in the game if a new pitcher is brought into the game as part of a interchanged batting order.

Also Federation rules have defensive confrences which are very different than trips.

[SanDiegoSteve]

I meant for the purposes of removing the pitcher. It is the same whether the coach removes the pitcher at the mound, or comes directly to the umpire to make the change. In OBR, it is the second trip, and the pitcher has to be removed no matter where it takes place.

Over 99% of charged defensive conferences in FED are the coach visiting the pitcher. Trip is just a slang word for it. I don't tell a coach, "that's two conferences." I say "trips." They know what I mean. You say potato, I say spud.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Yes, if the pitcher is removed it is considered a trip. Therefore after the first trip of the inning, that pitcher must pitch for the remainder of the inning or be removed from the game. He cannot stay in the game if a new pitcher is brought into the game as part of a interchanged batting order.

Also Federation rules have defensive confrences which are very different than trips.

Hold on a minute!

Alan (RHP) pitches to the first batter of the inning and walks him. Manager comes out and signals for the LHP, Bruce. Bruce strikes out the next batter and the manager comes out and signals for the RHP Chuck. Chuck walks the next batter and the manager comes out and calls for RHP Dave. Dave strikes out the next batter but runs the count to 3 - 0 on the next batter. Manager comes out to talk to Dave.

Then manager has not made a trip this inning as he has changed F1's every time. He is not only legal on this trip, he can come out again and change to another F1!


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edited for typo on the 3 - 0 count. Thanks mattmets!

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Hold on a minute!

Alan (RHP) pitches to the first batter of the inning and walks him. Manager comes out and signals for the LHP, Bruce. Bruce strikes out the next batter and the manager comes out and signals for the RHP Chuck. Chuck walks the next batter and the manager comes out and calls for RHP Dave. Dave strikes out the next batter but runs the count to 0 - 3 on the next batter. Manager comes out to talk to Dave.

Then manager has not made a trip this inning as he has changed F1's every time. He is not only legal on this trip, he can come out again and change to another F1!

If he runs the count to 0-3 I hope coach is coming out to congratulate Dave on finally recording an out!

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Then manager has not made a trip this inning as he has changed F1's every time. He is not only legal on this trip, he can come out again and change to another F1!

The point of my post was that even if the current pitcher is removed without the manager leaving the dugout, it is considered the 2nd trip. The pitcher must leave the game.