Would you?

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

Personally, I think it would depend on the speed of this movement:
A quick movement- I call it.
A slow movement- I let this one slide but am sure to point out this mistake to the skipper.

If F1 is checking on R1, do you call a balk for any movement of his shoulders no matter how small or slow? If it's slow and only noticable to me 'cause I'm looking, I let that go as well.

JMO

It shouldn't matter to you how quickly he removed his hand from the ball. This is AML we're talking about, not LL juniors Fall development ball. Matt has the right idea. They know better at this level, or at least they should.


I was of the same opinion about a slow and deliberate shoulder turn not being called until just recently. SDS posted a cite from Mike Fitzpatrick that convinced me any movement of the shoulder after coming set is to be called a balk.


Tim.

[UmpJM]

bossman,

As described, it's certainly a balk.

If you call it on MY pitcher, I'm not going to complain. (I'm not going to like it very much, but it's MY fault, not yours.)

If you DON'T call it on THEIR pitcher, I'm not going to complain either. (I don't think my team was disadvantaged.)

If you DO call it on my pitcher and then DON'T call something equally "nit-picky" on their pitcher, then we've got a problem.

JMO.

JM

[Justme]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

bossman,

As described, it's certainly a balk.

If you call it on MY pitcher, I'm not going to complain. (I'm not going to like it very much, but it's MY fault, not yours.)

If you DON'T call it on THEIR pitcher, I'm not going to complain either. (I don't think my team was disadvantaged.)

If you DO call it on my pitcher and then DON'T call something equally "nit-picky" on their pitcher, then we've got a problem.

JMO.

JM

So you are saying that while it's "certainly a balk" it's "nit-picky"? Didn't sound nit-picky to me.....poor coaching maybe but not nit-picky umpiring.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by Justme

So you are saying that while it's "certainly a balk" it's "nit-picky"? Didn't sound nit-picky to me.....poor coaching maybe but not nit-picky umpiring.

Although in JM's defense, it WOULD be nit picky for the age group that JM coaches (Pony league).