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I agree. That post was puzzling. mick |
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face it, you're a pretty good guy. But hey, I'm not one of them internet experts so what do I know (well, I actually am an internet expert but probably not in the sense that a certain Grumpy Gus might use the term, not to mention any names but jeeze Carl lighten up already fer gawd's sake). Anyway I like ya and I don't care what they say about you! ![]() |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Carl Childress
You're close, but "out" by a whisker. (grin) Carl, leave me out of this, I have not posted on the subject. ![]() The other gentlemen are giving you enough static. grin glen (whiskers_ump)
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OK, No post tag action considered when determining a legal tag. Per JEA, C2, Jerry and others.
The catcher took two steps to glove the ball in front of the plate. He then took two steps back to set up for R3 coming in on a non force play. That, in itself, proves total control. Now you see, clear as day, the catcher put the tag on the runner, BEFORE he gets to the Plate. After all you have said about this play, you now say, show me the ball, safe, NO TAG. Wow. Is that a contradiction. I'll stick with J/R on that, post tag proof. Good luck. G. |
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But, if we change your play slightly and F2 steps on the plate (assuming it's a force play, of course), THEN runs into the runner, it's a tag of a base and the runner is out even if the contact causes the ball to come loose. That's because F2 demonstrated control when he caught the ball and ran the two steps to the bag. Unless the force / act of tagging the bag caused the ball to come loose (say, for example, F2 was on the ground and reached back with his glove and the ball popped out as F2 touched the plate with his glove), the fielder still has control upon tagging the base. Action that is subsequent to tagging the base, and unrelated to tagging the base that causes the ball to come loose doesn't affect the tagging of the base. |
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