Confused

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by NIump50

(2) When the ball is dead, no runner may return to touch a missed base or one he has left after he has advanced to and touched a base beyond the missed base.

Bob,
According to approved ruling #2, if the runner has retouched home base on his return to third, does this nullify the original touching?
On first glance it appears in this sitch the runner could not return to third after the ball went into DBT.

It's one of the myriad porrly-worded rules in OBR.

What it means is that if the ball is dead, and the runner THEN advances, the runner cannot now return.

If the runner advances, and the ball then becomes dead, the runner can still return (unless he advances to the NEXT base -- that is, the second base after the one he left early or misssed).

Originally Posted by CoachJM

For example, if we take the third world (fourth dimension????) case where said runner is beyond his advance base AND the umpire judges that the fielder intentionally threw the ball out of play for the sole purpose of preventing the runner's legitimate attempt to return, said runner would be allowed to return, even if beyond his advance base at the time the ball went out of play. (Ref. 8-3-3d, Note).

Yes -- thanks for the supplement.