Sooooooo....today was the first day...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

You personally did not ask for their support in negotiating game fees ect. I agree. But, consider the number of amatures asking them "Speak at our banquet. Speak at our clinic. Can you get me game tix?" All of which they (at least the small number I personall know) do without asking anything in return. Ask yourself if you have ever benifited from one of these guys.

I have personally been helped immensely to improve my umpiring by some current and former members of the AMLU. That's why I choose to support them.
I want to make clear that I am not nor have I ever been a professional umpire. I know quite a few and consider them friends. That's why their situation upsets me.

This is an excellent point.

I also find it funny that many here that claim to think the union guys were stupid and not thinking of the bigger picture, were some of the first to get claim they turned down assignments to replace the AMLU guys. So if you feel the AMLU was so wrong, why would someone not work if asked? Practice what you preach if you ask me.

Peace

[SCUMP]

blue lawyer.....for the entire time the amlu was on strike.....people that worked were threaten, harrassed called names etc.....

tried to say the integrity of the game was a stake.....i am just really enjoying giving back a little taste of the medicine.....

when it is your turn to drink it doesn't taste so good......

so drink up!!!!!!

signed.....big sac, umpire whore..........egomaniac!!!!!!

[SCUMP]

j rutledge....i did work.....i am a former minor league umpire.....evans trained

4 years minor league experience.......retired......for family reasons........

so i am practicing just what i preach.......

if you dont like the pay, or the people that pay you, it is easy......find

another job!!!!!!!!

[BlueLawyer]

All in favor of teaching SCUMP basic rules of grammar, syntax and usage, say "aye." SC, the content of your posts suffers dramatically because You Overuse Ellipses (..........) And You Type Everything In Title Case.

The content isn't generally very good, either, but whatever point you're attempting to make is obscured by this rather annoying typing style.

Strikes and outs!

[SCUMP]

Hey Lawyer............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .i Am Glad It Annoyes You.....................................all In Favor Of Annoying You Say Aye...........................although When I Read Your Post I Feel Like I Am Reading Straight From Ann Landers Or Mr Rogers............................................ ..............can We Say Boring!!!!

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by SCUMP

j rutledge....i did work.....i am a former minor league umpire.....evans trained

4 years minor league experience.......retired......for family reasons........

so i am practicing just what i preach.......

if you dont like the pay, or the people that pay you, it is easy......find

another job!!!!!!!!

"If" the above statement is true, I would expect someone as well versed in the life of a Minor League umpire as SCabUMP would understand where the current AMLU guys are coming from with their requests.
Is it possible that SCabUMP worked these games to attempt to bathe in the waters of his youth?
Has he no friends left in the Minor League system? Well... I guess he doesn't anymore

[SCUMP]

Pwl....that Was Original If Nothing Else.........(for U Lawyer)...

Momma Said She Knows You.......(tiny Body Parts And All).......lil Dicky

[SCUMP]

Speaking From Experience With The Pay, Travel, Etc.....blu4o

I Was Happy To Have The Opportunity, I Knew The Terms Of My Contract When I Went To Work.....

I Did Leave My Little White Sign In The Garage Though.....

As For My Friends In The Game.....they Are Still My Friends, They Respect My Decision To Work Just Like I Respected Their Decision Not To...

Life Is All About Choices.....i Sleep Well With Mine. If The Guys That Have Returned To Work Are Not Happy With Their New Labor Deal, Well I Dont Think The Good Folks At Milb Or Pbuc Will Try And Stop Them From Going Home.

Stop Crying About The Deal And Work Or Go Home.

I Did Enjoy My Bath.......grey Hair And All.....

[SCUMP]

Nicky Boy I See What The Unions Have Done Throughout This Country, In Most Cases Priced Themselves Right Out Of Work....

I Am Not Nor Will I Ever Be A Member Of Any Labor Union.

There Is Something Very Wrong When The Workers Of A Factory Or The Employees Of A Company Can Tell The Owners Of The Company What They Have To Do!!!!!

If You Don't Like The Way The "owners" Run Things Well Hit The Road.....

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by SCUMP

As For My Friends In The Game.....they Are Still My Friends, They Respect My Decision To Work Just Like I Respected Their Decision Not To...

There it is... you truely are either naive or full of $hit. There is not 1 professional umpire out there who respects what you and hundreds of other unqualified SCABs did to undermine their collective bargaining efforts with PBUC and MiLB.

I'm glad that you sleep well, but IMO that speaks volumes to your integrity and morals.

BTW- I think you need a little history lesson on the formation of labor unions in the US. Perhaps you should read A Peoples History of The United States by Howard Zinn.

I've had it with you.

[Sal Giaco]

Originally Posted by SCUMP

j rutledge....i did work.....i am a former minor league umpire.....evans trained

4 years minor league experience.......retired......for family reasons........

so i am practicing just what i preach.......

if you dont like the pay, or the people that pay you, it is easy......find

another job!!!!!!!!

Guys,
I know SCUmp because I went to school with him. Just like myself, we did not get jobs. Just like myself, we moved on and raised our families and worked Independent Professional baseball (not affiliated Minor League Baseball) for the last 5+ years as an advocation/hobby (not a vocation). The only difference is that SCump worked indy ball full time in the summers where I just worked it locally (5 - 7 series per summer)

Despite the image he portrays on this board, SCUmp is a good guy. With all due respect, I think he needs to becareful how he presents his experiences. Independent League umpires and Affiliated Minor League umpires both work professional baseball, however, the mentality, goals and "dreams" are quite different.

I'll leave it at that because I just don't want to get in the middle of all this "mud slingging".

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by Sal Giaco

Guys,
I know SCUmp because I went to school with him. Just like myself, we did not get jobs.

Hmmmm, maybe I was right in my last post after all...

[SCUMP]

Sal As Always A Beacon Of Light In An Other Wise Dark Night....

A Good Guy That Deserved A Job.