for all you HSM wearers

mattmets · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:07pm

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Originally Posted by BBUMP99

I believe that the MLB umpire you are referring to is Bill Welke. I have seen him do it on several occasions. I do not wear a hat under my mask. Welke is the only pro umpire i have seen wear a hat under his helmet. Mark Wegner, Gary Cederstrom and C.B. Bucknor are the only ones that come to mind who wear the HSM and do not wear a hat. But I know that several others do.

Ed Hickox wears one under his helmet. I do not. I don't know what I have to do with this discussion, just my couple of pennies.

pdxblue · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:15pm

Those masks look totally silly. I will NEVER wear one.

RPatrino · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:19pm

Doesn't the HSM completely wreck a perfectly good hat?

nickrego · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:58pm

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Originally Posted by pdxblue

Those masks look totally silly. I will NEVER wear one.

Your right, a MASK does look totally silly. That's why everyone should wear a Hockey Style Helmet (HSM).

Resistance is futile !

pdxblue · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 06:03pm

Whatever. Have your silly looking headgear. You guys look totally ridiculous in them.

Rich · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 06:27pm

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Originally Posted by pdxblue

Whatever. Have your silly looking headgear. You guys look totally ridiculous in them.

Oh, please. The number of catchers in helmets in youth/HS/college ball outnumbers the ones in masks.

I don't give a crap how it looks to anyone. I see better in it and feel better protected. And it would be a cold day in hell before I wore a hat under one.

This is the first season I haven't worn a traditional mask at all. I'll let you know if I can bear the heat/sweat come July, though.

nickrego · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 06:36pm

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Originally Posted by pdxblue

Whatever. Have your silly looking headgear. You guys look totally ridiculous in them.

Lighten up pdxblue.

Funny thing about this HSM vs. Mask controversy, is it only exists between umpires !

Nobody else cares...They only care about how good an umpire is. Our customers (fans, players, coaches) don't care if we dress like Lady Godiva, as long as we call a technically perfect game.

Me, I couldn't care less which my partner chooses. I'd rather work with a partner that 'works' good, rather than only 'looks' good. Get it ?

3appleshigh · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 06:56pm

"Is better to look Good then to Feel Good, you know what I'm saying to you Darling!" Fernando

Because "You look MAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVAlous"

pdxblue · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 08:11pm

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Originally Posted by nickrego

Lighten up pdxblue.

Funny thing about this HSM vs. Mask controversy, is it only exists between umpires !

Nobody else cares...They only care about how good an umpire is. Our customers (fans, players, coaches) don't care if we dress like Lady Godiva, as long as we call a technically perfect game.

Me, I couldn't care less which my partner chooses. I'd rather work with a partner that 'works' good, rather than only 'looks' good. Get it ?

That may all be so, but to me, you look ridiculous!

GarthB · #10 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 08:12pm

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Originally Posted by nickrego

Lighten up pdxblue.

Our customers (fans, players, coaches) don't care if we dress like Lady Godiva, as long as we call a technically perfect game.

I couldn't disagree more.

Rich · #11 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 11:02pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB

I couldn't disagree more.

I agree with you. Clean, pressed uniform, shined shoes, etc., are all important. Not one coach, team, or league will give a crap whether an umpire uses a traditional mask or a helmet.

UMP25 · #12 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 01:18am

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Originally Posted by nickrego

Your right, a MASK does look totally silly. That's why everyone should wear a Hockey Style Helmet (HSM).

Resistance is futile !

Right mask, wrong last line.

Get your movies straight!

nickrego · #13 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 01:43am

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Originally Posted by UMP25

Right mask, wrong last line.

Get your movies straight!

Ahhm !

Who do you thing the Borg stole that line from ?

Watch episode IV & V again.

etn_ump · #14 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 08:28pm

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Originally Posted by pdxblue

Those masks look totally silly. I will NEVER wear one.

Totally silly? I bet your one of those guys that has one of those sun visors on the inside of your mask. Now that looks totally silly. Why would you need the sun visor, the hat your wearing is below it and it has no affect on your vision at all.

I wear the HSM (with a 4-stitch hat) all Spring and the comfort, protection and vision is far superior to the traditional mask. However, when the weather warms up, I'm back to the traditional mask due to the heat. That is the only drawback to the HSM in my opinion.

LDUB · #15 (**permalink**) Mon Jun 12, 2006, 11:36pm

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Originally Posted by etn_ump

I wear the HSM (with a 4-stitch hat) all Spring and the comfort, protection and vision is far superior to the traditional mask.

Is the protection actually better? Of course the top, sides, and back of one's head is protected, but that doesn't matter at all. Has there ever been some type of study which has said that they hockey mask protects better than a standard mask? You can't say the protection is better unless you have tested it with the exact speed and location against a shot to both masks. Just saying I took a really bad shot with my standard mask, and I haven't had another bad one since doesn't mean anything, as bad shots don't occour often. You may not have taken one during that time period if you had still been wearing your standard mask.

About the same up/down view can be obtained by using a low profile standar mask. So you must be commenting on the side to side vision. But what are you using the better peripheral vision to see? I cannot think of a single thing that there is to see that cannot be seen using a standard mask.