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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 02:51pm
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for all you HSM wearers

Just curious if you wear a plate or combo cap under your HSM. I noticed an MLB umpire on TV last night that did. That's the first time I've noticed...maybe not paying attention before.
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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 03:18pm
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Just curious if you wear a plate or combo cap under your HSM. I noticed an MLB umpire on TV last night that did. That's the first time I've noticed...maybe not paying attention before.
I wear a combo hat under my HSM. Only pulled hat off once during game. Takes a little practice to take helmet off without taking the hat, but "looks" better than the bare head, IMHO.




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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 03:27pm
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I've worn combo hat under my HSM in colder weather with no problems. When it's warm or hot, forget it!
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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 03:41pm
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If you were watching the Cleveland vs. Chicago game, I saw it also.

I was totally surprised the first time I saw that guy take off his helmet, to see a cap. He is the first MLB HSM wearer I have seen do that.

I have both sizes of the All-Start helmet he was wearing. I currently wear the Small size, now that it is available. I can get a 4 stitch cap to fit under both, but it is really uncomfortable. 6 stitch or larger is out of the question. If I HAD to do it, I would go back to wearing my Large size. But then the helmet would not fit properly, so I would be concerned about protection.

Wearing a cap really cuts down your visibility, because it causes the helmet to ride up, bringing the bottom bar into your field of view, and the brim of the cap sticks out of the cage, closing off the top part of your view. It's as bad as wearing a Mask and Cap. Tunnel vision all over again.

The other thing I noticed, and would expect, is how hot it got, just sitting in front of the TV. An HSM is designed with cooling vents, that get blocked off by a cap. Did you notice that the umpire was continually wiping sweat from below his eyes, during an evening game where his partners were wearing jackets ?

He also was using two hands to remove and put his HSM on. You only need one (left) hand normally, without a cap. I found it was not possible to use one hand with a cap.

HSM's are not designed to have a cap worn under them, so I wonder what implications that creates with respect to Product Warranty, and Protection Liability for the companies manufacturing them.

Here are the possible reasons for wearing a cap that I can think of;
  • Under pressure from MLB or Mentor to wear it.
  • Not ready to make the complete switch to new technology.
  • Doesn't know your not supposed to wear a cap under an HSM.
  • Didn't want everyone to see his Ponytail.
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I believe that the MLB umpire you are referring to is Bill Welke. I have seen him do it on several occasions. I do not wear a hat under my mask. Welke is the only pro umpire i have seen wear a hat under his helmet. Mark Wegner, Gary Cederstrom and C.B. Bucknor are the only ones that come to mind who wear the HSM and do not wear a hat. But I know that several others do.
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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:07pm
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I believe that the MLB umpire you are referring to is Bill Welke. I have seen him do it on several occasions. I do not wear a hat under my mask. Welke is the only pro umpire i have seen wear a hat under his helmet. Mark Wegner, Gary Cederstrom and C.B. Bucknor are the only ones that come to mind who wear the HSM and do not wear a hat. But I know that several others do.
Ed Hickox wears one under his helmet. I do not. I don't know what I have to do with this discussion, just my couple of pennies.
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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:15pm
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Those masks look totally silly. I will NEVER wear one.
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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:19pm
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Doesn't the HSM completely wreck a perfectly good hat?
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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 05:58pm
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Those masks look totally silly. I will NEVER wear one.
Your right, a MASK does look totally silly. That's why everyone should wear a Hockey Style Helmet (HSM).

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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 08:28pm
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Those masks look totally silly. I will NEVER wear one.
Totally silly? I bet your one of those guys that has one of those sun visors on the inside of your mask. Now that looks totally silly. Why would you need the sun visor, the hat your wearing is below it and it has no affect on your vision at all.

I wear the HSM (with a 4-stitch hat) all Spring and the comfort, protection and vision is far superior to the traditional mask. However, when the weather warms up, I'm back to the traditional mask due to the heat. That is the only drawback to the HSM in my opinion.
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Old Mon Jun 12, 2006, 10:00pm
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Those masks look totally silly. I will NEVER wear one.
You're right ! MASKS do look silly !

Us cool kids wouldn't want you wearin' our stuff anyway !




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