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Perhaps the protection difference is all in your head. When you take a shot to the mask, I bet you are thinking "Wow, that would have been a bad one if I had on a standard mask." Maybe you are just like the guy who thinks he is so much hotter in the black shirt. Maybe the shot would not have been any worse had you had been wearing the standard mask. 
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 12:31pm
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HSM was designed for hockey goalies. Would you take a conventional catchers mask out on the ice and say it was equal in protection? What about if someone ripped a 120 mph slap shot directly at your face? It goes without saying that the helmet portion of the mask is more protective.
The facemask (and the helmet for that matter) of an HSM was designed in a wedge shape for a reason. The wedge allows a puck to glance off the mask in a way that minimizes direct force. A conventional catchers mask is somewhat flat in it's design and the impact from a direct shot is much greater. I've spent three years in the HSM. Before that I spent fifteen in a regular umpire mask. Having been one who's worn both I can say that I'd much rather take a hard shot while wearing an HSM. The only shot that is similar between an HSM and a regular mask are direct shots to the chin. Those feel the same with either mask and tend to make my ears ring a bit. HSM's have better vision period. Anyone who's spent some time in both knows the advantages. A few words about cooling. I've used what I consider the two best HSM's the All-Star and the Easton Stealth. While they are both great HSM's the Stealth is cooler. I personaly feel the Stealth is cooler than a wool cap and mask but opinions vary. The Easton also comes with sweat absorbers on top of the inner pads so sweat isn't as much of an issue. Many umpires in our area are also wearing an under armour style skull cap to soak up the sweat. Some leave it on between innings others remove it with the helmet. I'm bald so I've tried the skull cap and it works pretty well. Again, opinions vary on how the skull cap looks but in my area they've become accepted. Earlier this season I tried wearing a regular cap underneath my HSM. It actually works but screws up the vision a bit. The beenie thing on the top of the cap is also annoying. I personaly will never wear a cap underneath an HSM again unless my local assoc. makes a rule stating that I must. Just two cents from someone who's been there done that.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 12:55pm
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 01:02pm
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More protection to the front -- maybe, but it doesn't, imo, "go without saying."
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 02:21pm
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Incidently I didn't buy my All-Star HSM form Honigs. I bought both the Easton and the All-Star from a local supplier. I've rarely had a conventional mask spin when I've been hit. Usually it stays put. Maybe I have the thing too tight who knows. I wear a HSM because my doc wants me in a helmet type protector due to the amount of concussions I've had most of which stemmed from playing sports. The concussion that broke the camels back stemmed from a bad car accident.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 02:24pm
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To be honest I've never had a serious injury as a result from wearing a normal mask. However, the HSM in my experience is much better at minimizing the force of a direct shot.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 02:34pm
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Opens the Door for Change
2006 NFHS Baseball Rules Changes Release Date: 10/19/05
1-5-5: New Rule: Defensive players are permitted to wear face/head protection in the field. If a pitcher or any defensive player wears face/head protection, its outer covering shall have a non-glare surface. Rationale: Although not frequent, there are occasions when defensive players suffer serious head injuries as a result of being struck by thrown or batted balls. Not surprisingly, pitchers have suffered a disproportionate share of such injuries. This addition emphasizes that fielder's face and head protection is permitted. ------ Mandated changes will be coming soon. Boo-hoo for the hockey style mask behind home plate. It will not be long until the fielders are required to wear cages like these. http://www.lacrossemonkey.com/helmets.html Look at some of the other protective equipment choices. Lacrosse Shoulder Pads Lacrosse Arm Guards Lacrosse Rib Protection Lacrosse Gloves Jocks & Undergarments Lacrosse Goalie Chest Guards Lacrosse Goalie Throat Guards Lacrosse Helmet Lacrosse Helmet Accessories Lacrosse Footwear Lacrosse Equipment Bags Baseball is missing a whole 'nother line of baseball gear accessories. I have my on this one, http://www.lacrossemonkey.com/warrio...inghelmet.html Get a load of this Features: Safety New contoured Vision Face Mask for unparalleled vision and undeniable protection. 7-Point Face Mask Mounting System designed to protect critical impact zones. Extended back shell length provides extra 'D' against concussions and wicked hits. Meets or exceeds all NOCSAE standards for helmet safety. Sculpted and integrated EVA Molded Visor and Chin Pieces for added durability and superior protection. Rear hinge liner design made to contour to the back of your head for added comfort and heavy duty impact absorption. Patented Composite Helmet Shell streamlined for performance and maximum protection. Comfort NEW light weight Warrior EVA padding liner provides unbelievable comfort without sacrificing protection. High-impact dual density foam crown liner provides extreme protection for the top of your head, while adding lightweight comfort for maximum maneuverability. 4-Point Chin Strap keeps jaw inline for added comfort and safety. 15 Vaporflow Vent Holes make this bad boy lightweight with maximum breathability. 5 Fitted Helmet Sizes Available: Extra Large, Large, Medium, Small, and Extra Small. Last edited by SAump; Tue Jun 13, 2006 at 02:40pm.
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 10:54pm
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Luke already beat me to this thread, covering the same exact view that i have. i love when these threads pop up...
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Tue Jun 13, 2006, 11:26pm
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sounds a lot like the stereotypical SUV driver of the last few years...buying a hummer because hitting telephone poles in a regular car would probably kill you, but not in a hummer. i say that as an SUV owner, im not going after people
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