Rising fastball

[SAump]

I don't know how many times someone on this site has stated that a round object doesn't behave as a wing. Well, one of you better write the folks at NASA cause they now have a flight simulation software program written for a BASEBALL.

http://www.microsoft.com/education/fastball.mspx

download the FoilSim program from http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/aerosim/

I always hear the BS from the peanut gallery when I am wrong. I love the sound of silence when I am RIGHT.

[SAump]

Wait a minute, same story from different researcher.

Are these guys being paid for duplicating research. I think that is cause for early dismissal. I understand the need to publish or perish, but this looks like down right plagerism. Perhaps I'll write a paper and sell it to leading researchers around the country every 6 months so they could pass it off as their independent research. NO, I wouldn't do that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12424508/

It would be even more suspect if this same stuff is published by another leading reseacher from another well-respected university in a few more months. Real geeks are more intelligent than this.

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Someone knows what their talking about.

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Someone knows what their talking about.

Are you really too dumb to read the contents if the articles you post, or are you just trying to be funny? This is from the article you just posted the link for.


The myth of the rising fastball

Fuld has pondered other aspects of hitting that will interest any fan.

When a hitter swings under the ball and misses, baseball announcers sometimes say the pitcher got him with a "rising fastball." But technically, this pitch cannot exist if thrown overhand — it's impossible for a pitch thrown downward to buck gravity and achieve upward lift.

The rising fastball deceives the hitter in almost the opposite way a good curve does. A 90-mph fastball will drop significantly less than one thrown at 80 mph. So instead of dropping a few inches in the last few feet, a fastball with some serious zip will maintain a nearly straight trajectory.


You've taken this ridiculous contention of yours to the extreme. We all know you're wrong yet you persist. Please let it go before you embarass yourelf any further. I would rather have you tell us again why it's appropriate in your world to go for help on a check swing with the right hand. At least it pertains to officiating.


Tim.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Are you really too dumb to read the contents if the articles you post, or are you just trying to be funny? This is from the article you just posted the link for.

Tim.

Calling me dumb when you actually waste your time reading that ****. This is from the article I posted, " Ken Fuld, a baseball enthusiast and visual psychophysicist at the University of New Hampshire ..." Where I come from, plagerism isn't shined upon brightly. Now what happened to you source at ASU or is just about everybody publishing this SAME research every four months? It looks like the UNH guy is now saying the exact SAME THING as the ASU guy was saying four months ago. One thing is RIGHT, both of those guys are psycho-physicist. To bad neither knows anything about HONESTY or HITTING A BASEBALL.

Take a look about what FULD said about the killer curve, "The pitch looks like it comes in straight, but during the instant the hitter is blind to the ball, a good curveball will have dropped a foot or more, and the batter will likely swing over the pitch." BUTTER. If you believe the hitter is blind to a major league curve, that a hitter cannot track the ball for a brief moment and only makes contact by swinging where he thinks the ball is going to be, then YOU ARE FULL of it TOO. I played ball and adjusted my swing as the pitch was delivered. I am not relying on past history or experience. I LIVED IN THE MOMENT and ADJUSTED MY SWING right then and there using my BRAIN to read the pitch type and location. I know that is difficult for some dweeb that can't hit a baseball very well to understand, but I don't make up the BS about how others HIT something these psycho-physicist can't hit.

This JOKE IS GETTING OLD. Another myth {perpetrated} on the interenet. Oh I remember, your physicists is smarter than my physicists. One lie told right after another. Where are the FACTS, critical thinking or scientific method? The most you can hope for is for me to believe you just because some PSYCHO_PHYSICISTS said SO. NOT! At least greymule came through when he wrote the initial post. It was well thought out and his sources are credible.

[BigUmp56]

Okay, I get it now. All of the studies done by so many repected physicists were part of a conspiracy to refute your nonsense. They all came to the same conclusions, so they must be duplicating each others research methods.

I like how you ignore Fulds findings on the myth of a rising fastball, yet discuss his contentions on curve balls. I though we were discussing why it's impossible for a baseball thrown overhand to escape it's initial velocity vector and actually rise. I could debate you all day on the effectiveness of hitting a good curveball. It would only be a waste of my time though, as I doubt you've ever stood in a batters box and looked dead red when a pitcher capable of bringing it at 90+ throws an ungodly bender. I have, and it wasn't pretty. The only thing an average hitter will track is his way back to the dugout.


Tim.