Score the run on Balk?

[bossman72]

OBR

R1, R3 and 2 outs. Pitcher balks and delivers to the batter as R1 is stealing on the pitch. Both F2 and R1 don't realize a balk has been called and F2 throws down to 2nd to get the stealing R1 while R3 hangs around 3rd. R1 overruns the base and is tagged out for out #3.

So, does R3 score automatically because of the balk, or is this a time play?

[JIGGY]

Originally Posted by bossman72

OBR

R1, R3 and 2 outs. Pitcher balks and delivers to the batter as R1 is stealing on the pitch. Both F2 and R1 don't realize a balk has been called and F2 throws down to 2nd to get the stealing R1 while R3 hangs around 3rd. R1 overruns the base and is tagged out for out #3.

So, does R3 score automatically because of the balk, or is this a time play?

THAT'S A BALK...(SMACK INTO THE GLOVE)...TIME! THAT'S A BALK!- YOU SCORE, YOU 2ND BASE. GIVE COUNT MINUS PITCH DELIVERED ON BALK. STILL 2 OUTS.

[JIGGY]

Originally Posted by PWL

Just curious, is there anyway to get an out after a balk call?

YUP...YUP THERE IS...

[Thom Coste]

Originally Posted by PWL

About the only way I can think of is if the offensive team had rather have the play where an out was made where it would be more to their advantage than the balk call itself. However, in FED it would be a mute point. Ain't nuthin' happening on a balk whatsoever.

No choice on a balk. It is enforced or ignored based on what follows. In the posted play, it must be enforced, just like JIGGY said.

If the batter and all runners advance one base the balk is ignored, so what happens after that could include an out. Also, if a throw following a balk is wild and a runner attempts to advance beyond the base he is entitled to, he is in jeopardy.

Two examples:
R1, R3, balk is called on the delivery. Batter spanks a single into right field and R1 is thrown out at third. That out stands.

Or, R1, pitcher balks trying to pick the runner and throws the ball down the right field side. R1 easliy reaches second and tries to get third, but is thrown out. That out stands.

So, on a balk, enforce or ignore. You're thinking of catcher's interference (FED: obstruction). Also in FED/NCAA, use of an illegal glove may result in a choice.

[JIGGY]

Originally Posted by Thom Coste

No choice on a balk. It is enforced or ignored based on what follows. In the posted play, it must be enforced, just like JIGGY said.

If the batter and all runners advance one base the balk is ignored, so what happens after that could include an out. Also, if a throw following a balk is wild and a runner attempts to advance beyond the base he is entitled to, he is in jeopardy.

Two examples:
R1, R3, balk is called on the delivery. Batter spanks a single into right field and R1 is thrown out at third. That out stands.

Or, R1, pitcher balks trying to pick the runner and throws the ball down the right field side. R1 easliy reaches second and tries to get third, but is thrown out. That out stands.

So, on a balk, enforce or ignore. You're thinking of catcher's interference (FED: obstruction). Also in FED/NCAA, use of an illegal glove may result in a choice.

jeez, ya coulda left em hangin for at least a little longer, let some others jump in and give their wacky versions first

[bossman72]

Ok, ok, slightly modify original situation:

It's a passed ball instead of F2 catching it.