Babe Ruth Follies

[Tim C]

I do not think that SAump can state a clear statement.

I cannot follow his sentance structure, much less his discussions.

I must be in a "user error" moment since I simply do not understand his points.

That is not rare, by the way.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Tim C

I do not think that SAump can state a clear statement.

I cannot follow his sentance structure, much less his discussions.

I must be in a "user error" moment since I simply do not understand his points.

That is not rare, by the way.

He has no 'point.' Give him 3 more paragraphs and he'll convince himself that Steve Bartman hit the series-winning single in the 2004 World Series.

[SAump]

I try to listen for the ball in the mitt while I watch both the runner and first baseman legally touch. I have been taught not to signal safe or out right away. I have been taught to set, read, pause and allow the "dust to settle." I don't signal safe or out unless I am damn sure it's a SAFE or OUT call. Afterall, I am in no hurry to hang myself. You could be sure that my call would be made prior to the baserunner reversing direction after sprinting long past first base.

I have been told its okay to take even more time if its a bangor. It helps sell the proper safe or out call. I try to gather as much info as possible. No one has ever asked me to rule if he is safe or out before. If they do ask, then I would probably signal safe. Now if the first words I hear are "He missed the bag." That would lead me to another entirely different CALL. Now if the runner indicated that he missed the bag by quickly returning to the bag, I don't need to wait for an appeal. It's like self-incriminating evidence. The defense is holding the ball and touching the bag. VERDICT for the DEFENSE.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SAump

If they do ask, then I would probably signal safe. Now if the first words I hear are "He missed the bag." That would lead me to another entirely different CALL.

Well, it should lead to a different call. If the fielder has posession of the ball and is touching the bag and announces "he missed the bag" before the runner has corrected his error, he has just made an unmistakeable appeal.

Originally Posted by SAump

Now if the runner indicated that he missed the bag by quickly returning to the bag, I don't need to wait for an appeal. It's like self-incriminating evidence. The defense is holding the ball and touching the bag. VERDICT for the DEFENSE.

I think you should consider changing your moinker from SAump to MakeItump. You tend to make it up as you go along. Even when told what the exact professional interpretation is you still have to try to defend the indefensible.


Tim.

[PABlue]

lol

[SAump]

I read what you had to say and I agree with most of it. I may consider it now that I have been made aware of it. No one can expect any more.

I really liked the detailed explanation. I expect you to see that we are not that far apart. I hope you recognize that some of us may have been taught the very same things in school. But each person has a unique interpretation on precisely what was said.

I never try to put any words in from my pro-clinic. I certainly didn't carry a tape recorder out there. I may have been too tired and too sore and too sleepy and too hungover too hang on every word out of the pro-instructors mouth. I do remember the THIRST though.

If you do signal safe, and the defense properly appeals, and you signal out; please let me know the results from your evaluators -> the half that disagrees with your version of pro-mechanics.

[SAump]

You're OUT works fine.

You get HOME faster.

The End!