PBUC , J/R, and Evans

[BigUmp56]

Wow. You really believe Gary changed his board because of your infantile threat.

Well you tell me, Garth why do you suppose he changed things?

I've been sending him e-mails for almost a year now asking him to change things. I started posting a link to my board after every rude post for only two days. After those two days, on Nov. 16th, he made a post on my board asking me to stop. I replied to him on the same day. Within 5 days, he cleaned the board out and started attatching IP addresses. I don't think it was just a coincidence that he suddenly made the change. If you were to go there, you'll also see that the baseball board is the only board to start adding the IP addresses.

Was it an infantile threat? No way! I tried to reason with Gary for a long time about this. All of my correspondence was done in a professional and gentlemenly manner.

And you believe you have the right to advertise your board on competitor's boards.

Competing for what? The betterment of officiating baseball? I'm not making any money on my board. The only thing I'm gaining is some good friends.

What color is the sky in your world?

Apparently no where near as black as the sky in your world.

Tim.

[BigUmp56]

Originally posted by Tim C
Edited because some people aren't worth the effort.

Tee

[Edited by Tim C on Dec 2nd, 2005 at 11:15 AM]

Did you edit this before or after you sent me the e-mail this morning apologizing? I must have been worth the effort for you to send that e-mail, Tee.

Tim.

[LDUB]

Originally posted by BigUmp56
I've been sending him e-mails for almost a year now asking him to change things. I started posting a link to my board after every rude post for only two days. After those two days, on Nov. 16th, he made a post on my board asking me to stop. I replied to him on the same day. Within 5 days, he cleaned the board out and started attatching IP addresses. I don't think it was just a coincidence that he suddenly made the change. If you were to go there, you'll also see that the baseball board is the only board to start adding the IP addresses.

Was it an infantile threat? No way! I tried to reason with Gary for a long time about this. All of my correspondence was done in a professional and gentlemenly manner.

Yeah, it was all you. I mean Gary has never deleted anything before. Good job threatning him by posting links to your forum.

I can't believe that you seriously believe that Gary would change everything around just because you wanted him to. I haven't read anything this dumb in a long time.

[BigUmp56]

You're right, Luke. The same week I had it out with Gary, all the stars lined up and it all just happened due to fate.

It was the old "action, reaction" thing. Believe what you want, I know why he made the changes.

Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally posted by BigUmp56

Why do you feel they all need to be so different? Are you suggesting that you would support some type of segregation on these boards? We all do the same thing, Luke. We're umpires. We may not all do it the same way, but we all still umpire. That gives us a common bond, doesn't it?

Tim.

Yes Tim, that is exactly what is being suggested. This site was set up to cater to the snobbish "college ball" crowd, not for the "small ball", or "eager to learn and share" crowd. God forbid we post anything that does not resemble a Pulitzer Prize winning article, or even mention games which are played on diamonds whose bases are less than 90 feet apart (even though the number of officials who work small ball far outnumber college umpires.)

Tim, what you fail to recognize is that the ranks of college ball umpires are often comprised of anal retentive, stuck up, insecure individuals who have a false sense of superiority over the rest of us (and don't try to crack back and deny this, fellas. It is the gospel truth). They are very exclusionary, as it is similar to a private club. When you dare to try to put yourself on an equal footing with them, they feel the need to insult and degrade you. It's alright, it's just their nature. They can't help it, as Ma Richards said about G.H.W. Bush.

As Tee stepped on his johnson by saying, they would like it if some of us would just go away. Careful what you wish for.

[TBBlue]

Quote MCROWDER from thread closed post.

"This is stupid. There is no better word for it. I feel like I've walked into the chat rooms of a bunch of 11 year olds on AOL in the early 90s.

GROW UP.

For me - this place no longer holds any interest."


Well said Mcrowder.

SDS and BU56

You guys are getting old. Say what you are going to say and let the thread go...geez...droning on and on and on and on and on....How many threads do you guys have the last post...yet you don't argue...Whatever.

Oh yeah, I also work some LL, have posted about it here and elsewhere, and Tee and the other "college crowd" don't say a word...of course I don't drone on and on and on and on.

Back to lurking...maybe...

[SanDiegoSteve]

TBBlue,

Go start your own thread if you don't like mine. If you hadn't chimed in with your opinion just now, this post of mine would not have been necessary. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna take any crap off of anybody, starting with you. If you don't like what I have to say, take a freaking hike.

[BigUmp56]

Originally posted by TBBlue
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How many threads do you guys have the last post...yet you don't argue...Whatever.

In the past 100 days. I have 5 and you have 5. What's your point? I've never said I didn't argue or that I wouldn't argue. If you can show me one post where I started an arguement, I'll rethink things.

In my personal opinion, if one hold's himself as any kind of a man, he is not going to be afraid to speak his mind and respond in kind, in a debate.

Tim.

[MrUmpire]

As the number of my posts attest, I lurk far more than I post. Today, I cannot contain myself.

BigUmp, you may be big, but it's obvious you are not a big ump. You are no doubt a very small ump to match your very small mind.

[PWL]

Excuse me. I thought I was in the bipolar support chat room. My bad.

[Carl Childress]

Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve

Yes Tim, that is exactly what is being suggested. This site was set up to cater to the snobbish "college ball" crowd, not for the "small ball", or "eager to learn and share" crowd. God forbid we post anything that does not resemble a Pulitzer Prize winning article, or even mention games which are played on diamonds whose bases are less than 90 feet apart (even though the number of officials who work small ball far outnumber college umpires.)

Tim, what you fail to recognize is that the ranks of college ball umpires are often comprised of anal retentive, stuck up, insecure individuals who have a false sense of superiority over the rest of us (and don't try to crack back and deny this, fellas. It is the gospel truth). They are very exclusionary, as it is similar to a private club. When you dare to try to put yourself on an equal footing with them, they feel the need to insult and degrade you. It's alright, it's just their nature. They can't help it, as Ma Richards said about G.H.W. Bush.

As Tee stepped on his johnson by saying, they would like it if some of us would just go away. Careful what you wish for.

The Forum exists for everybody. Everybody is free to post. Everybody is free to complain about other people's posts.

It's called freedom.

You think?

Who cares how often Tee Alan gripes about little league baseball? Who cares how often Windy misrepresents to make a point?

You've often denigrated the paid site. If you were a member, you could have read my article yesterday on this subject.

If someone is wishing you would go away, by all means do so if that rings your bell.

Otherwise, stick around.

We're not McGriff's, and we don't discourage hot debate as long as it doesn't get obscene. Bob and mick take care of that. Our webmaster has never had to erase an entire season of posts.

[BigUmp56]

Originally posted by MrUmpire
As the number of my posts attest, I lurk far more than I post. Today, I cannot contain myself.

BigUmp, you may be big, but it's obvious you are not a big ump. You are no doubt a very small ump to match your very small mind.

The next time you insult me for having a valid opinion, could you at least do it with some substance. My 12 year old son can do better than that. If you disaree with things I've said, you need to speak your mind. Just throwing out a vague insult accomplishes nothing. If you're just looking to garner favor with the "big dogs", then maybe you have accomplished your goal for the day.

Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally posted by Carl Childress

You've often denigrated the paid site. If you were a member, you could have read my article yesterday on this subject.

Carl, when did I do this? I can't recall saying one bad thing about the paid site. I wish I were made of money so I could join, but right now the money is tight.

[LDUB]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BigUmp56

Originally posted by LDUB

Did it ever occur to you that the reason some people don't post/read other forums is because of the content of those forums?

No, Luke I didn't until I posted a link to the article a few days ago.[/B]

You are saying you never thought certain people don't post on McGriff's board because of all the fighting? You never noticed that eteamz was the LL crowd? You never noticed the NFHS forum is for NF rules?

Some people don't like want to put up with everything that goes on at McGriff's, so they don't post there. Some people don't want to put up with all the crap at eteamz so they don't post there. People don't know NF rules because their state used the OBR don't post on the NF forum.

If you didn't realize that each forum is different, then how do you decide in which forum to start a thread? Ohh that's right, you just post the thread in every forum you know of.

Originally posted by BigUmp56
Why do you feel they all need to be so different? Are you suggesting that you would support some type of segregation on these boards? We all do the same thing, Luke. We're umpires. We may not all do it the same way, but we all still umpire. That gives us a common bond, doesn't it?

No one wants to waste their time reading about stuff they don't care about. 60ft LL questions are not interesting to almost all people on this forum. I am sure people who work only 60ft LL don't want to read NF & NCAA questions.

As TBBlue has said, no one has a problem with him working LL. TBBlue even posts on a private forum along with many of the people from this and other forums who do not like you, and nothing has ever been said to him. If he has a question about LL, then he knows the best place for that is eteamz. When he posts here he doesn't bring a LL mentality. He is just another poster.

And no, everyone does not have a common bond. Many little league umpires are also coaches. They are half rat, half umpire, and that shows through if you watch they way they conduct themselves. Also, many LL umpires are happy working a very low level of baseball and have no aspirations to get better and move up to higher level games.

[briancurtin]

Originally posted by BigUmp56
They bring in umpires with all levels of experience to instruct in the camp. They pour over rules, mechanics, situations, etc. at the camp. How many other youth organization do that fot their umpires?

yes there is training, is it good training though?

i worked LL when i was younger and 2 years ago worked the senior league state tournament for a friend (15-16 yr olds if i remember correctly), had the plate for the championship game. after that game, two of the other three umpires noticed my "weird stance" (GD) and recommended i use a different stance. they proceeded to show me sort of a heel-toe-like stance but much more than heel toe spacing and with your butt down lower than it should be. they mentioned that this was like something i'd be taught if i went to the williamsport school or something (one of them had been to this school), and i should begin to use something like that stance (never planned to go there previously, never will). i dont remember what was said but my stance was picked on for quite a few aspects, whereas ive been evaluated using GD, and its done correctly.

dont the LL schools also teach all 3 base umpires to pivot on the inside on like routine ground balls to the outfield? thats not correct, i understand, but theres quite a few things you see in the LLWS that make absolutely no sense.