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Old Sun Nov 20, 2005, 11:55pm
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I think the J/R is cool.

So is the BRD!
As does everyone, but that wasn't the subject of the thread. We're pretty much in agreement that all the manuals are useful tools, but they are not universally applied, so they remain "opinion only" at the amateur level. I want to know a way to make them mainstream, and affordable for everyone.
Until amateur umpiring becomes nationalized, which will never happen, they will not be universally applied.

But they are applied today by intelligent associations and leagues and are more than opinion. They are authoritative opinion and they carry weight with many BOD's, leagues and associations. I don't understand why you are fighting so hard.

You want MLB to come out and say, "The JEA is Gospel." Won't happen. We have to move on and use what is available. You have a choice to support yourself with the likes of the JEA or the opinion of Ernie down the street at Aunt Martha's Pie and Screen Door Company.

I would love for all associations to supply the manuals to each official at the first meeting of the season. Then, and only then, would all officials in the same association be able to call games in a consistent way. That is all. Mods, lock this sucker up.
Steve:

You appear to be an adult, but you are sounding like a teenager.

First of all, never will ALL associations do anything the same way. Let's pretend we live in the real world. Affect that which you can. Work to get YOUR associations and the leagues YOU work with to understand the need for and the legitimacy of "Casebook type" materials. My association uses the JEA and the leagues which we work utilize it for any appeals or rulings.

You want the same? Work for it. Don't whine about it. It isn't very becoming of someone who is so good an umpire he was nicknamed Augie Donatelli. It resembles more a little league umpire who doesn't understand reality.

Then, move on so you don't become another "Poor Johnny One Note."

You'll be glad you did.

[Edited by GarthB on Nov 21st, 2005 at 12:06 AM]
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