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Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
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Originally posted by BigUmp56
This has been a very insightfull thread! IMO- this is the type of discussion that makes these forums so educational.
As it appears there is no definitive source that gives more clarity on this issue, I will tell you what I think I will now do if this ever happens to me, based on the responses you've all given.
1) Once a batter steps into the dugout, I have an out. I'll buy in to the Roder interpretation that the batter can be called out for desertion on a batted ball before touching first base.
2) Although I have the batter out, I'm holding off making that call until all continuing action has relaxed, keeping the force intact.
3) If challenged, I'd just tell the offensive manager that I didn't see exactly when his batter entered the dugout, and in my judgement, it was after the DP was recorded.
Tim.
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And I have to disagree. I find this type of thread to be mental masturbation at best and something that hurts novice umpires more than helps at worst.
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Got to agree with you, Rich. If ANY umpire blows this call once in twenty years, and I don't know how that is possible because there is NO correct answer. Then it will definitely be another twenty years before they see again!!!!!!
Probably trying to convince a majority of the "green house effect" will be much easier, and definitely more practical.
Sun Nov 13, 2005, 11:52pm
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