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Last night I was at a PCL game between the Rivercats and the Grizzlies. Situation: R2, 2 outs. Line drive single to right, R2 rounds 3B, arrives at the plate just before ball, does not slide, avoids tag, then runs right into PU who is standing on the 1B side of the plate directly in runners path. R2 tries to hold up, but train wreck ensues. F2 stands over the pile with ball in hand, PU is under R2. No signal yet, F2 is standing looking at PU. BR now advances to 2B as F2 is napping. R2 gets up off of PU, and PU signals safe from his back. Catcher is irate, coach is furious, etc. No question to ask, just have never seen a collision like this that involved an umpire. BTW, PU took a few moments to get his bearings, and finished up game with out any problems.
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Mon Aug 15, 2005, 01:20pm
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I wonder that the runner did not see PU. PU probably does too. [Edited by mbyron on Aug 15th, 2005 at 02:22 PM]
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Mon Aug 15, 2005, 01:48pm
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I really think that R2 was so focused on plate and F2 that he did not see PU until he touched home and looked up. He tried to hold up, but PU was maybe 4 feet behind the plate directly in line with the runner. R2 was Freddie Bynum, one of Oakland's prospects. He knelt by the PU until the PU was able to get up. Anyway, I think PU was expecting R2 to slide, not score standing up. It was kind of reminiscent of the Jeremy Giambi/Jeter play in the playoffs a couple of years ago. (Without the collision).
[Edited by Hunter on Aug 15th, 2005 at 04:08 PM]
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Mon Aug 15, 2005, 03:06pm
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Mon Aug 15, 2005, 05:15pm
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Absolutely too close
If he was only 4 feet from the plate he was definitely too close. He ain't the only one who makes this mistake, but surprised to see it if they are working AAA. Sometimes stuff happens...dang near saw the same thing the other night at Safeco Field from a grizzled vet...
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Tue Aug 16, 2005, 03:52pm
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One of Ron Luciano's books has a picture of an MLB umpire (I believe Bill Haller) on the ground on his chest after being runover on a play at the plate he took third base line extended. It has happened before, and will again.
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Wed Aug 17, 2005, 02:16am
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That is why I always give myself the full circle around home or as much as I can get otherwise. If the backstop is up close to home I will even get back against it.
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Wed Aug 17, 2005, 08:37am
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Thanks...my copies of Ron's books have been collecting dust on the shelf for quite awhile...I last read them when I was in college...I just remembered the picture. That is why I posted that "I believe(d)" it was Haller. I certainly wasn't sure. Maybe I thought it was Haller since Ron wrote a lot about him throughout the book.
As for where DiMuro was positioned, I certainly have no clue as to how close/far from the plate he was and did not mean to imply otherwise...I only posted to say that a collision has happened before in MLB and will happen again. Thanks for the additional info.
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Wed Aug 17, 2005, 09:51am
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This was even the case at first base, as I think Ron mentions in his books. It was a bang-bang play involving the Cubs and Tom Gorman was at first. The Cubs were batting, Tom got bowled over, and as he was lying on the ground dazed, Leo Durocher came out to argue. Tom asked "Leo is that you?" Leo said yes. tom replied, "Then he's out."
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