Sunflower seeds on the field - Page 3

dudeinblue · #31 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 08:15pm

I don't think kids ages 9-14 use FED rules Garth. These are the majority of the kids I umpire in the summer due to not many high-school and college aged tournaments. In those tournaments for high-school aged kids, we do use FED rules. I've already made this clear enough Garth and I think everybody has gotten the point but you. I specifically cited that I was doing 10 year old baseball. You just wanted to jump at the chance of being another smart-a$$. Almost worked

GarthB · #32 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 08:24pm

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Originally posted by dudeinblue
I don't think kids ages 9-14 use FED rules Garth. These are the majority of the kids I umpire in the summer due to not many high-school and college aged tournaments. In those tournaments for high-school aged kids, we do use FED rules. I've already made this clear enough Garth and I think everybody has gotten the point but you. I specifically cited that I was doing 10 year old baseball. You just wanted to jump at the chance of being another smart-a$$. Almost worked

Wow. You apparently can't read. Nowhere, and allow me to repeat that, nowhere did I say that any kids use FED rules. What I said, was: "All of our summer leagues have the same rules regarding tobacco as FED."

I'll interpet that for you, and I'll type slowly. You can even move your lips when you read, if that will help.

All of our summer leagues, which are not FED, have rules that are the same as FED in regards to the tobacco rules.

Now then, as you can clearly see, it matters not to my post what age of baseball you are doing. Ten year olds, eight year olds, six year olds. Whatever is comfortable for you, it means nothing to what I said.

If you still have a problem understanding, let me know and I'll type it phonetically for you. There is no need to make anything up and claim I said something I didn't. We'll work with you on this.

dudeinblue · #33 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 09:31pm

When you say they have the same guidelines as FED, this leads other readers to believe that it is older kids at the high school level. I don't think all of the parks make sure and look up the FED policy on tobacco use and say "that's what we're gonna do". It seems as though you're the one taking things out of context.

BigUmp56 · #34 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 09:32pm

dudeinblue,

I gotta tell you man, if you were caught dipping during a youth game in ANY of the youth programs that I work games in, you would be sanctioned for the first offense and then asked not to return again EVER after the second offense.

I call games in LL, Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Connie Mack, Stan Musial, and American Legion. All of these leagues have a stern policy regarding the use of tobacco products by participants, and yes we as umpires are to be considered participants in that we are the official league representitives in the game.

Dipping around 10 year old CHILDREN is reprehensibile IMO.
I have never done a game in the Pony or the Dixie youth baseball programs. Maybe those are the leagues you work, and they don't have such a policy. I just cant imagine that they don't.

The majority of the offials responding to this thread, if not all of them, have disagreed with you on this quite openly. You should take their advice to heart. The justification for your actions you have provided this board in regards to being from Tennessee is just plain weak!

Tim.

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Tim C · #35 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 09:40pm

I would suggest that you (we) stop filling in this poor souls ego.

dudeinblue is a fuking idiot. His own posts prove it over-and-over.

ANY umpire that would dip in a small ball game has proven what a fukstick he is.

Really, why should ya'll waste time with this fool.

Just my opinion . . . let dudeinblue's posts prove himself.

He is the only umpire on the internet that makes dumbdrum look smart.

T

dudeinblue · #36 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 09:43pm

Point taken BigUmp. You are exactly right. It just must be different where everybody else works. It is not a weak excuse saying that I'm from Tennessee. How can it be a weak excuse when half of the guys you umpire with dip or chew during the games? I'm not trying to justify my actions and I do take the others advice to heart. I have not been informed on any such policy in any tournament I have called in. I'm not trying to make excuses, but it's just different in East Tennessee I guess. I'm telling you the honest truth.

briancurtin · #37 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 09:56pm

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Originally posted by dudeinblue
It is not a weak excuse saying that I'm from Tennessee.

yes, yes it is.

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How can it be a weak excuse when half of the guys you umpire with dip or chew during the games?

so if half of the guys you umpire with wear ball bags on the bases, its ok for you to do so as well?

i just saw tee's post, and he is right, im done with this guy for now

dudeinblue · #38 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 09:58pm

This forum is for umpires regardless of the level or regardless of how much they know. The point of this forum is to discuss and to learn. I have learned alot reading other posts and seeing replies to mine. You act as though since not everybody does not know as much as you who has been umpiring for a number of years, then they are automatically a freaking idiot as you previously posted. I give my opinion just as you do, and I have not found one reply from you where you gave good, solid advice. It has all been smart-a$$ comments to other posters. If your knowledge is that great of the game, then please share it with us as we are eager to learn from a veteran such as you. You have been on my case since day 1 when all I am trying to do is discuss the game of baseball with other umpires on here to see if I can learn something. I thought it was weird when confronted about dipping as it has never been done in my 3 years of umpiring. My knowledge of the game is still increasing and I have alot to learn as I have shared in previous posts my credibility. I am not a bad umpire and have been complimented many times, and been offered many times to umpire for different high school and collegiate associations. Can you please cut me some slack and respect me as I will try to respect you as well considering your experience? I take the advice others give me to heart, but all I have from you are smart-a$$ comments. I'm sorry if I sound that stupid Tim, I just want to learn and become the best umpire I can

dudeinblue · #39 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:00pm

Quit acting like a big dog b/c you're not. You're newer to the forum than I am so you have proved absolutely nothing. Nobody cares what you think

briancurtin · #40 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:04pm

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Originally posted by dudeinblue
Quit acting like a big dog b/c you're not. You're newer to the forum than I am so you have proved absolutely nothing. Nobody cares what you think

1. maybe not
2. 100% wrong
3. maybe not

Rich Ives · #41 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:12pm

dude wrote: I don't think kids ages 9-14 use FED rules . . .

Just in case you run across it, they do if they play AAU baseball.

tcarilli · #42 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:14pm

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Originally posted by dudeinblue
I give my opinion just as you do, and I have not found one reply from you where you gave good, solid advice...If your knowledge is that great of the game, then please share it with us as we are eager to learn from a veteran such as you...all I am trying to do is discuss the game of baseball with other umpires on here to see if I can learn something...in my 3 years of umpiring.

Dude,

Pause, read, react. You give your opinions based on three years of experience. I assure you Tim has more than three years of experience. You say you want to learn, but invariably your replies are "yeah-buts." You really are not ready to offer advice on many things in umpiring especially on game managment type issues. Don't be ashamed of that none of us were prepared after three years of umpiring.

Pause, read, react.

dudeinblue · #43 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:14pm

I haven't umpired AAU before. I am currently doing USSSA world series. Thanks for the advice though, I didn't know that

dudeinblue · #44 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:35pm

If you're done with me Brian, why did you respond? Also Tony, with my "yeah-buts", I try to pick people's brains. Is there something wrong with this. Do you just want me to say okay and shutup or ask questions and bring up "what if's"? I agree Tony, I have nothing to offer having just 3 years of experience under my belt. That's why I haven't given hardly any advice. Advice as in what you should or should not do. I respond with maybe what I would do and try to see what others think of that. I am not ashamed of this. If I were ashamed I would not be trying to get others opinions. Thanks for the advice

Tim C · #45 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:39pm

Just because Brian (not BRAIN, idiot) has only 16 posts on this site does not mean a thing in terms of senority.

Brian is a quality umpire and poster from a different site. He maybe new HERE but he is an incrediably accomplished umpire that you could learn from.

You, however, are stuck on being 20 . . .

No biggie, you will be one day measured on what "you could have been" as you will never reach the level of some of the posters here.

Sorry, we missed helping a guy that maybe could have been good.

Whataputz!

T