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Old Thu Jul 21, 2005, 12:09pm
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I'm with Oz. This "meeting to get it right" AFTER a call has been made is BS.
Hey, those days of officials being "God" and whatever they say is "Gospel", .....ARE OVER WITH.

Deal with it, because it sticks out like a sore thumb that officials that aren't interested in getting the calls as correct as possible have an ego/attitude problem. And thats personal. They can't accept the fact that someone is questioning their authority, or that they just may be wrong.

This has nothing to do with tradition, nor was it ever ectched in stone in the rules either. The Leagues are hiring officials that can deal with it, and the game is getting better because of it.

Deal with it or don't let the door hit you in the A## on the way out. Because truthfully, there are enough attitudes to deal with already on the field. Having a partner with one, just ruins it for the rest of us.
You know, you make me laugh! It's you that has an attitude problem - you must be insecure with your decisions!

I don't claim to be God no did anyone else! What we claim is simply we get less than a second to see the play and then we get to decide. If we feel that we have enough information to render a decision, so be it. If we don't have enough information, we go for help. What is so hard to understand here?

We are saying that this constant meeting BS is getting ridiculous! The old timers NEVER went for help - WE DO! But not on every little thing - jumping christ, you guys want to meet for anything and everything! Maybe it's you and your kind that need to walk out the door and let the game come back to where it should be. May I suggest you try football so you and all your buddies can huddle all you want!!!!!!

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Old Thu Jul 21, 2005, 12:47pm
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I'm not saying one should never get help. Just ask for it if you are not sure about the foot (or tag) BEFORE you guess and make a call. Seem this MLB umpire guessed. If he was SURE he saw it right, then no "appeal." Hey, we have appeals now for judgment calls. By the way, I have no problems getting along with partners.
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 09:02am
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I agree with Macaroo
If I'm not sure about something, I'm not afraid to just go straight to my partner. Most of the time, I know that I'm right. But you shouldn't be have to get help for everything every time. If I know I'm right, I don't need help.
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 09:20am
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Hey Oz, no one is saying that we should huddle to discuss calls everytime. You are blowing this whole meeting thing out of proportion.

On this play, the 1st base umpire made the wrong call. That is a verifiable fact. The base umpire also was in a bad position and had a bad angle on the play. This also a fact.

If ever a play was a candidate for discussion, this was one of them. Even from the plate, the PU has a good angle and can easily see if the pitchers foot hit the bag. Diaz was looking where he was supposed to, gave that information to his partner when asked and the correct call was made. So what's the problem?


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Originally posted by Macaroo
I'm with Oz. This "meeting to get it right" AFTER a call has been made is BS.
Hey, those days of officials being "God" and whatever they say is "Gospel", .....ARE OVER WITH.

Deal with it, because it sticks out like a sore thumb that officials that aren't interested in getting the calls as correct as possible have an ego/attitude problem. And thats personal. They can't accept the fact that someone is questioning their authority, or that they just may be wrong.

This has nothing to do with tradition, nor was it ever ectched in stone in the rules either. The Leagues are hiring officials that can deal with it, and the game is getting better because of it.

Deal with it or don't let the door hit you in the A## on the way out. Because truthfully, there are enough attitudes to deal with already on the field. Having a partner with one, just ruins it for the rest of us.
You know, you make me laugh! It's you that has an attitude problem - you must be insecure with your decisions!

I don't claim to be God no did anyone else! What we claim is simply we get less than a second to see the play and then we get to decide. If we feel that we have enough information to render a decision, so be it. If we don't have enough information, we go for help. What is so hard to understand here?

We are saying that this constant meeting BS is getting ridiculous! The old timers NEVER went for help - WE DO! But not on every little thing - jumping christ, you guys want to meet for anything and everything! Maybe it's you and your kind that need to walk out the door and let the game come back to where it should be. May I suggest you try football so you and all your buddies can huddle all you want!!!!!!

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