can you be called out on a walk

xray4506 · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 10:22am

recently my american legion baseball team lost a game on a bases loaded walk. the batter threw his helmet in the air, approached our dugout and flexed his muscles. all b4 going to 1st base. is their a rule that could of been used to call him out.

Rich Ives · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 10:33am

No.

I suppose he could be ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct, but not untoi the play is over.

mcrowder · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 12:38pm

No, your team lost because your coach didn't bother to protest a ridiculous misapplication of rules by an OOO umpire.

GarthB · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:04pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mcrowder
No, your team lost because your coach didn't bother to protest a ridiculous misapplication of rules by an OOO umpire.

I don't think you read the post correctly. The poster wasn't commenting on any action by the umpire, he was questioning if the uumpire could have done something to penailze the batter/runner.

mcrowder · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:07pm

I did read his post right, and even said that the umpire's ruling was ridiculous. Gotta protest when that happens.

Blue37 · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:12pm

mcrowder - I think you are still missing it. The way I read it, xray4506 was on defense and his pitcher walked in the winning run. The batter taunted the defense and xray4506 wants him called out for the taunting.

xray4506 - Is this what you meant?

xray4506 · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:19pm

blue37 is correct we were on defense, and i think the runner should have been called out

gsf23 · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:20pm

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Originally posted by mcrowder
I did read his post right, and even said that the umpire's ruling was ridiculous. Gotta protest when that happens.

What ruling was that and what should be protested?

gsf23 · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:23pm

Personally, I'd like to see this idiot's actinos cost his team a game. It says that he approached the other team's dugout, could you maybe bang him for not going directly to first base? Probably not, but I'm just throwing things out here. Like I said, would love to see this idiot cost his team a game.

officialtony · #10 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:34pm

Mcrowder,
I don't understand your response.
There was NO ruling by the umpire.
What rule are you protesting - the walk the umpire issued?
Not gonna happen.
There is no protest here.
Even if the umpire decides to toss the guy for UC, it will be after the game winning run walks in anyway.

To answer the post, the loss is valid.
The umpire could toss the B/R for Unsportsmanlike Conduct, but that comes after the walk and the winning run scores. Unfortunately this idiot gets to let the winning run score either way, but I am with gsf23.
I would like to stick around and watch this guys teammates when they see HIS actions cost them the game.
But that is not to be in this instance.
Too bad though.

LMan · #11 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:39pm

no worries...this guy will get "his" the next time these teams meet.

mcrowder · #12 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2005, 03:40pm

My bad! I thought init poster lost because PU called this player out - an absurd ruling. Instead, poster was trying to get the absurd ruling. My bad! So sorry. Many humble apologies.

officialtony · #13 (**permalink**) Tue Jul 19, 2005, 07:49am

Not to me - that's for sure! ! ! !
I thought I was missing something and wanted to be sure I wasn't. I enjoy your posts and responses. Stay with it.

TriggerMN · #14 (**permalink**) Tue Jul 19, 2005, 11:06am

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Ives
No.

I suppose he could be ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct, but not untoi the play is over.

Rich, are you sure the ball must be dead for an umpire to eject a player? Is there a rule in the book for this? I guess if a kid walks, takes a few steps towards first base, turns around and tells me I'm f'ing terrible, I'm not waiting for him to get to first base before I dump him. He's gone and the replacement can finish his jog to 1st base.

UmpJM · #15 (**permalink**) Tue Jul 19, 2005, 11:50am

TriggerMN,

I believe Rich is correct on this point. Reference:

"9.01

...(d) Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play."

Also, see 5.10(h).

Now, if I'm the offensive manager, and it's my player who had just acted like this, and the umpire calls "time" to eject him and have another player fulfill his award of 1B, the only thing the umpire is going to hear from me is an embarrassed apology for my player's unacceptable behavior and a "thank you" for tossing him.

JMO.

JM