Obstruction -

[PeteBooth]

This past Saturday I had a Mandatory HS meeting to attend. The meeting dealt with some controversial rules and also on mechanics.

Of coarse, one of our favorite subjects came up Obstruction most notably Obstruction on the part of F2.

The question which has been discussed adnausam on the internet forum - Exactly what is meant by In The Act Of Making a Play came up especially from the new guys.

Play: r2 B1 singles to right, r2 rounding thrid heading for home

The way is was explained and the way the association wants it called is as follows:

F2 can set up about 2 or 3 ft up the line and block home plate if he is about to receive the ball

In other words F2 cannot position himself 2 or 3 feet up the third base-line blocking the base if the ball is still in the outfield; F4 has the relay throw or releases the throw. The ball has to be near the pitchers mound and F2 ready to receive it on the bounce.

Therefore, if F2 sets himself up 2 or 3 feet up the third base line blocking the base and the ball is still in the outfield or in the glove of the cut-off man, and r2 has to slow-down or go around F2 we are to call Obstruction

In order to be consistent, I would recommend that those of you who have similar problems in defining in the act of making a play , check with your associations to get a clear-cut definition of this so that the call is consistent from 1 group of umpires to the next.

Pete Booth

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by PeteBooth
]In other words F2 cannot position himself 2 or 3 feet up the third base-line blocking the base if the ball is still in the outfield; F4 has the relay throw or releases the throw. The ball has to be near the pitchers mound and F2 ready to receive it on the bounce.

Therefore, if F2 sets himself up 2 or 3 feet up the third base line blocking the base and the ball is still in the outfield or in the glove of the cut-off man, and r2 has to slow-down or go around F2 we are to call Obstruction

Other than perhaps the specifics (?) of "near the pitchers (sic) mound" this is exactly the guidelines that have been mentioned on various internet forums by Carl, me, and others.

[umpyre007]

Originally posted by PeteBooth
The ball has to be near the pitchers mound and F2 ready to receive it on the bounce.

What happens if the ball is a frozen rope and doesn't bounce? [just kidding]

[Thane Yennie]

Immediately call time, note where the runner from third is at the time of release. Return the ball to the fielder who threw it to the catcher, the runner to the point of release and tell them to try it again. big grin

I am sitting here in the middle of parent/teacher conferences bored out of my mind. I needed a little levity. ty

[umpyre007]

Originally posted by Thane Yennie
Immediately call time, note where the runner from third is at the time of release. Return the ball to the fielder who threw it to the catcher, the runner to the point of release and tell them to try it again. big grin

I am sitting here in the middle of parent/teacher conferences bored out of my mind. I needed a little levity. ty

How about a complete do-over? Issue a warning to the outfielder that further attempts to throw the ball on a line without a bounce will result in immediate ejection.

[Whowefoolin]

If the ball is in left field and the play is at first or home, then ball must be in the in-field to be considered in "the act" of fielding (defining infield I am considering the area to be called as an infield fly).

If ball is in right field and the play is to third or home same as above.

If ball is in outfield and fielder has possession, then any immediate base close to make a play is in the act.

If it is in the infield, then all bases able to make a play would be potentially in the act.

Rule of thumb only.

I learned that here, not at a mandatory meeting.

[JJ]

I was taught "If the ball is inside the runner - closer to home than he is - the catcher is OK". Another rule of thumb.

[Thane Yennie]

I like that idea. but what if the runner is two steps away and the ball is right on his keester? I would say the catcher is in the act of fielding and has a right to be there. I have heard any thrown ball within the arc of the pitcher's plate from foul line to foul line (takes about 2 seconds to travel that distance)is legitimate distance for the catcher to pitch a tent.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Thane Yennie
I like that idea. but what if the runner is two steps away and the ball is right on his keester? I would say the catcher is in the act of fielding and has a right to be there. I have heard any thrown ball within the arc of the pitcher's plate from foul line to foul line (takes about 2 seconds to travel that distance)is legitimate distance for the catcher to pitch a tent.

You've gotta get fielders with better arms. 60 feet in 2 seconds is about 20 miles per hour.

At 60 mph it would take about .6 seconds

(I hope I did that math right)

[Thane Yennie]

who the heck is doing math and figuring the velocity a 14 year old can generate. I was making a SWAG (scientific, wilda--, guess)

[umpyre007]

Originally posted by Thane Yennie
who the heck is doing math and figuring the velocity a 14 year old can generate. I was making a SWAG (scientific, wilda--, guess)

Between you, me and Bob this thread went north real quick.