Swinging and getting Hit

[motcoach]

Major Boys, Batter attempts to bunt at ball but is hit by pitch that is definitely not a strike. Do you call strike or does the batter get a walk?

[UmpJM]

motcoach,

Since he offered, it's a strike. (If strike 3, he is out.) Since it hit him, the ball is dead. No award of first base.

JM

[Tim C]

. . . Do we continue to deal with this sh!t!

Obviously, this is now Eteamsleeze. . .

A coaches site.

I am gone.

[U_of_I_Blue]

Anyone know why they disabled the searching in the forums? I know it's been a while and may have been discussed before, but if people could search the forum, there may not be all these repeat posts all the time on the same subjects.

-J

[David B]

Originally posted by motcoach
Major Boys, Batter attempts to bunt at ball but is hit by pitch that is definitely not a strike. Do you call strike or does the batter get a walk?

I think what Tim was trying to say is that there are many rules that are very simple and simply need to be looked up before posting.

This is one of those. why would the batter get a walk?

#1 its a strike, #2 the batter is HBP.

Rule in that order.

Thanks
David

[GarthB]

Originally posted by David B

I think what Tim was trying to say is that there are many rules that are very simple and simply need to be looked up before posting.

This is one of those. why would the batter get a walk?

#1 its a strike, #2 the batter is HBP.

Rule in that order.

Thanks
David

And, part of Tee's lament is it seems that one after another, umpire boards have been becoming LL coaches boards. Sleazeteamz went to the darkside a long time ago, and now, what some of us once considered the last umpire board, officialforum, appears to be following in its footsteps.

[BlueinLINY]

Originally posted by Tim C
. . . Do we continue to deal with this sh!t!

Obviously, this is now Eteamsleeze. . .

A coaches site.

I am gone.

Being brand new to this board I can only offer one opinion: Tim, please don't be "gone." I'm enjoying this board, your comments, and often well thought-out responses. Believe it or not, while some threads probably have been discussed before, I'm sure the poster didn't know that. I'm learning a helluva lot from you guys and don't want to see any of you "senior" guys leave.

JMHO

[Rich Ives]

Originally posted by Tim C
. . . Do we continue to deal with this sh!t!

Obviously, this is now Eteamsleeze. . .

A coaches site.

I am gone.

Are you the same Tee that wrote this when CC announced you as a writer?

"I am excited for the opportunity to offer any help that I can offer to umpires of all types, shapes and levels."

[GarthB]

Originally posted by Rich Ives

Are you the same Tee that wrote this when CC announced you as a writer?

"I am excited for the opportunity to offer any help that I can offer to umpires of all types, shapes and levels."

Take a pill Rich.

Even Dr. Phil has place he can go to get away from his work. Just because one offers to do something in one environment doesn't mean he wants to "take his work home."

As another exampler, some local LL umpires criticize me for not volunteering my umpiring. They claim I've given nothing back to the community. Apparently my 30 years of volunteer service for other youth activities, my parish and other non-profit groups is meaningless because it isn't LL.

[thumpferee]

Just my 2 cents.

This IS an open official forum, correct?

You don't have to respond to posts, correct?

It is what it is!

I personally welcome the chance to assist new officials/coaches who are willing to improve and accept criticism. And you will get criticism here. I am the ump I am because of this forum. Yeh, you all are to blame!

But as some have already mentioned in such polite terms, get a rule book and study the rules.

Coaching is not just a title, it's a responsibility!

[Edited by thumpferee on May 22nd, 2005 at 03:03 PM]

[Kaliix]

Rule 6.05 "A batter is out when - "
(f)"He attempts to hit a third strike and the ball touches him"

I'm all for asking questions, but as others have said, try reading the rule book first...

The answer may be right in front of you...

[thumpferee]

Originally posted by Kaliix
Rule 6.05 "A batter is out when - "
(f)"He attempts to hit a third strike and the ball touches him"

I'm all for asking questions, but as others have said, try reading the rule book first...

The answer may be right in front of you...

Even though your rule quote is correct on a 3rd strike, the original poster did not say it was the 3rd strike. The ball is dead however, and all runners return to the base occupied at TOP.

[chuckfan1]

Tim...

As much as your experience and knowledge has helped many over time, including myself, it is far outweighed by your "better-than-the-rest" attitude, and unsolicited remarks.
If you dont like the post, or the question, or the opinion, move on.
Let others answer the question, or offer advice. Do only officials have the right to post on this forum? Do all queries have to be substantive in nature?
So someone comes aboard and asks a question that is obvious to the majority. Whats the problem? Answer it or move to the next one. Why do you feel so compelled that you HAVE to bash?
I for one hope you stick to what you said in your post.

[LDUB]

Originally posted by chuckfan1
So someone comes aboard and asks a question that is obvious to the majority. Whats the problem? Answer it or move to the next one. Why do you feel so compelled that you HAVE to bash?
I for one hope you stick to what you said in your post.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Tee is right, this thread is a waste of time. The rule in question is not hard to understand, all you have to do is get out the rule book and read it. This is completly different than asking a valid question about somehthing which one can not learn by simply opening a book.

Why do you have a problem with Tee telling it how it is? It is obvious that Tee ejoys posting to this board, and he does not want to have to waid through "crap" posts to get to a real one.

Tee was recently chased off another internet board for a while by some of the idiots who post there. Why are you trying to chase him off this one? Tee is one of the few "quality" posters here. You should be thanking Tim for all of his input on this board, not trying to get rid of him.

[Rich Ives]

If the question bugs you - just don't participate in the thread.