I ain't letting it go

[Warren Willson]

Originally posted by rex
Carl,

What can I say.

BUT

I need additional clarification.

The J/R play calls for runners @ R3-R2 and R1.

The play you just posted has R3 and R2 only.

I'm thinking there is a difference in the plays.

So which play did you ask?

rex

There is NO essential difference in these plays, Rex. The pivotal issue is that the THIRD out is made on a time play (R2 tagged at home with bases loaded = R2 tagged at 3rd with no force), and that the FOURTH out is a NON-APPEAL "advantageous" 4th out.

The concept being tested was that there could be a NON-APPEAL 4th out following the legitimate 3rd out of the inning. Until the Fitzpatrick ruling, for PBUC, the ONLY place this appeared was in J/R Chapter 9. Every other rule book or authority talks only of "apparent" 4th outs ON APPEAL for a base running infraction that occurred during the final play. The latter is consistent with OBR 7.10 Casebook Comment. The J/R play is NOT consistent with that rule, but rather represents a NEW rule allowing 4 live action outs in a half-inning. Try that (How many non-appeal outs can there be in any half inning? Answer: 4) as a trivia question at your next association fund raiser, and see how many correct answers you get. (grin)

Cheers,