Last night's FED game. Coach had 11 players. They were smearing the other team 27-1. Both players on the bench were original starters. In the top of the second inning I warned the coach about one of his players throwing the bat. The same player came up in the 3rd and threw his bat again, catching the other team's catcher across the knees. I waited till the play was over (he ended up on first) and then calmly walked down to the coach and explained that the player was restricted to the dugout for the remainder of the game.

Now the question was, who was going to take the runner's place at first? Both people on the bench were locked into other batting positions. I vaguely remember an "exceptional substitution" rule which allows another player already in the lineup to return in a different spot if an injury or disqualification takes place, and no other players are available...but I can't find it now in the rule book. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, or maybe I'm all wet.

I told my partner that if that rule's not in there, I'll eat my hat. Do I have some high fiber coming????

The guy who batted before the guy who threw the bat can come out and run for him.

Based on which rule?

LDUB
 

I have never, ever heard of this being a National rule.

Please help me document this so I can yet again expand my knowledge of the FED rules I flat don't know.

If this is a rule, why does FED have the specific rule that speaks to starting with nine players but being able to play with eight?

Re: LDUB
 

5-4-1f, Note 1.

Re: Re: LDUB
 

Bob, I think you meant to type

4-4-1f, note 1.

Thanks
David

Re: Re: Re: LDUB
 

Yes -- thanks for the correction (Rule 5 starts on the same page, and I just looked at the page header when typing my response)

Sooo,
 

What I just learned:

It is MY state that disallows this practice.

Again, I am humbled about my lack of knowledge of the ONLY rule set I use each season.

I guess I need (like Bob) to carry my books to work each day.

OR at least learn the rules!!!!!

So,

The correct call is that the most recent "out" becomes the runner, and there is an "automatic out" each time the restricted player comes to bat in future innings...Correct?

MMMMMMMMMMM, this hat isnt so bad...pass the catsup please!

Tim
 

What do you take with your hat?

I want to know how to eject or restrict a player for throwing his bat in FED. I thought that this was a local rule from some LL field!

If a player doesn't know how to control their bat, they don't need to be playing baseball at any level!

Ozzy
 

While it is a LL "type" rule actually there are two references in FED. 1) for intentionally throwing a bat or helmet and 2) carelessly throwing a bat.

While no "real" umpire would call anything concerned with this in a FED game an UMPIRE COULD stretch things to do it if he wanted.

Follow the directives in 3-3-1b and 3-3-1m.

I've used both in my career (once each, iirc).

That sounds a lot like a Little League rule.