How come Blue can wear white or grey?

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

Consider multiple umpires but a true issue with three or four man schemes - creme or white shirts on the base umpires...

- this is more of a problem with a runner on and an umpire standing off the pitcher's shoulder. He will be looking at a large white mass directly behind the release point. I wouldn't want to be looking at that and I would not want my partner standing there when I'm watching the delivery.

[Edited by WhatWuzThatBlue on Dec 13th, 2005 at 12:32 AM]

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

They are also smart enough not too stand where they will hinder the player's or umpire's vision.

I'm not going to wate the time, but I can't recall too many games this past season with base umpires in the cremes. I watched plenty of games and went to a few different parks but never actually saw them in person. Thanks to ESPN, I know they exist but they seem to appear infrequently.

If you want to wear creme and your organization permits it, have a go at it. Mine doesn't and I haven't melted yet.

Those same guys that can't do the bases in a light blue shirt will wear a navy blue golf shirt for 18 holes in 90 degree weather though!

[BigUmp56]

Originally posted by largeone59

How and why are you digging up threads that are 4 years old?

Large,

More than likely, it's because he's exhausted his equipment inventory list, and now has nothing of value to add. It's a shame too, because if he was any kind of umpire, regardless of level worked, or experience, he could have learned quite a lot from this forum.


Tim

[umpbrian]

Originally posted by Tim C
For over 50 years plate umpires wore white shirts.

For his entire career Lee Weyer wore a white chest protector.

It was NOT a problem then . . . why would it be now?

Simple: we over analyze EVERYTHING in this day-and-time.

Tim,
50 years ago the games were not played under the lights. That is when I have been told that there is a major problem. In our conference we have been instructed that while we are allowed to wear the cream shirt it is for day use only.

[LDUB]

Originally posted by umpbrian

Tim,
50 years ago the games were not played under the lights. That is when I have been told that there is a major problem. In our conference we have been instructed that while we are allowed to wear the cream shirt it is for day use only.

That doesn't make sense to me. What is the logic behind that?

[ozzy6900]

Originally posted by PeteBooth
I realize it's pre-season but this past Saturday, Tom Seaver (a Met Color Commentator) was very vehement in his comments about the new Cream Color Shirts worn by the PRO umpires. He stated that this is very distracting to F1 and if he were pitching today he wouldn't like it.

I can see it now, hey Blue, please remove your shirt as it is distracting.

Your thoughts as always

Pete Booth

Yeah, the PU's shirt is about as distracting to F1 as F1's white sleeve is to B1. If you are focusing on what you should be, none of this comes into play.

Hey how about fluorescent green shirts with battery powered LED's on the back stating what position you are working!

[briancurtin]

Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
I'm not going to wate the time, but I can't recall too many games this past season with base umpires in the cremes. I watched plenty of games and went to a few different parks but never actually saw them in person. Thanks to ESPN, I know they exist but they seem to appear infrequently.

they appeared zero times the past season, zero the season before that

[Rich Ives]

Originally posted by ozzy6900

Yeah, the PU's shirt is about as distracting to F1 as F1's white sleeve is to B1. If you are focusing on what you should be, none of this comes into play.

Hey how about fluorescent green shirts with battery powered LED's on the back stating what position you are working!

To paraphrase Tee: Stick to umpiring.

A white ball coming out of a white shirt background is very difficlut to see.

Fielders have problems with white backgrounds - most often F3 on throws, but sometimes the other infielders on line drives.

From the pitcher's perspective, if you want to stand 52 feet or so from a batter who might hit a screaming line drive right at you - and it's coming out of a white background - go right ahead. See how much fun it is.

Hitters have problems too, that's why there are batter's eyes.

As for the "old timers" in white shirts, they also wore dark plate coats and most often a "raft" protector that covered up the white.

There's a ML catcher that wears a gray chest protector. When the CF camera is showing the pitch, please note that the ball is somewhat more difficult to see as it moves into that background.

And lastly, do you really think a pitcher with any lick of sense is going to tell the umpire that he's a distraction?

[umpbrian]

Originally posted by LDUB

That doesn't make sense to me. What is the logic behind that? [/B]

The logic that was handed down to me was that at night the pitcher, SS and 2nd baseman, have a much harder time picking up the ball of the bat. Wether or not it is true, I don't know. I just know that if the boss man says do it this way that's the way it gets done.

[LDUB]

Originally posted by umpbrian

The logic that was handed down to me was that at night the pitcher, SS and 2nd baseman, have a much harder time picking up the ball of the bat. Wether or not it is true, I don't know. I just know that if the boss man says do it this way that's the way it gets done. [/B]

Well why can't you wear cream at night? That is the part I don't understand.

[umpbrian]

Originally posted by LDUB

Well why can't you wear cream at night? That is the part I don't understand. [/B]

Like I meant to say, the ligher colored shirt blends with the color of the ball especially at night which makes it harder to see.

[GarthB]

Pitchers and fielders don't b*tch when their catchers whear white uniforms and light gray chest protectors, but it is a distraction when an umpire, standing behind the catcher wears a cream colored shirt.

Typical Rat bullsh*t.

[Rich Ives]

Originally posted by GarthB
Pitchers and fielders don't b*tch when their catchers whear white uniforms and light gray chest protectors, but it is a distraction when an umpire, standing behind the catcher wears a cream colored shirt.

Typical Rat bullsh*t.

Typical know-it-all bull****.

The white uniform doesn't mean a thing. It's either covered (for a catcher) or the throw isn't coming out of the shirt. The white uniform is not relavant to the discussion.

I've only seen the one gray catcher's chest protector in all my years around the game. It's not like it's a common thing that you could use to dismiss an argument.

Why did you ignore the comments from umpires that indicate there might be problems?

How was playing the outfield? If you were a pitcher or an infielder you'd know about white backgrounds.

[GarthB]

Originally posted by Rich Ives

Typical know-it-all bull****.

The white uniform doesn't mean a thing. It's either covered (for a catcher) or the throw isn't coming out of the shirt. The white uniform is not relavant to the discussion.

I've only seen the one gray catcher's chest protector in all my years around the game. It's not like it's a common thing that you could use to dismiss an argument.

Why did you ignore the comments from umpires that indicate there might be problems?

How was playing the outfield? If you were a pitcher or an infielder you'd know about white backgrounds.

I'll break my self-imposed ban on replying to your posts this one time. First, I played F3 in high school and college.

Second, I made a point to keep count of light gray catcher protectors in the majors last year and counted 5. And I didn't see all the teams play. It was more likely on any given day for a catcher to be wearing a light colored protector than a plate ump to be wearing a cream colored shirt.

Third, typical Rat-no-nothing, the b*tch isn't about the throw, it's about the hit and on a hit the background provided by the catcher is more in line than that provided by the umpire.

Fourth, I've not heard an umpire experienced with the issue state that there is a problem. On the contrary, I've heard an ML umpire say the issue is horsesh*t.

Now take the last word, as if anyone could stop you.

[umpbrian]

The point that I was trying to make was not whether or not I agreed with the ruling from my superiors, it is simply this is what I have been instructed to do and so I will do it. I personally think that it is just another thing for the rats to take hold of and gnaw on.