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Wrong,
At least correctness was served.
http://www.hickoryrecord.com/servlet...81630817&path= The call was in error and the State corrected it. As I posted above even state interpreters can misstate the rule and cause great problems. For those of you who had lost track of the ruling: The original umpire had ejected players for a celebration during a DEAD BALL and that is not of what the POE speaks. 
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Sat Mar 19, 2005, 01:59pm
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Sat Mar 19, 2005, 03:17pm
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Sun Mar 20, 2005, 03:16am
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Personally, I keep the kids off the dirt around home plate, I give the catcher a ball and tell him to take it to the pitcher and then let them have their celebration of the HR as long as no one does anyting directed at the other team.
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Sun Mar 20, 2005, 11:09am
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Re: Well,
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What were you smoking when you made that response? The state didn't correct anything. The umpire made the wrong call, period. The correct thing to do would be to replay the game from 10-2 when the "forfeit" occured. They completely chickened out. Quote:
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Sun Mar 20, 2005, 03:06pm
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1..I misread the original post. The home run should have stood, making the score 12-2, and the 10-run rule put into effect. Game over.
2..To replay the game is a gross misjustice to West Caldwell. To replay the game from the point of the misinterpretation is also an injustice. Bob
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Sun Mar 20, 2005, 05:02pm
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Because he, in all probability, completely FUBAR'd the rest of the game? O/W why not "fix" the error, which in this case would be BZ's outcome: 12-2, game over, W. Caldwell wins/ 10-run Rule. Not arguing/ seeking to persuade: just askin'. ---Carter
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Sun Mar 20, 2005, 09:47pm
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Am I reading the same article as everyone else?
To directly quote the article "When a bunch of the Warriors greeted Scott Hodge at home plate after his two-run home run in the fifth put them ahead 10-2, all but three members of the team were disqualified under a national high school rule that says:..." The HR Hodge hit put them ahead 10-2, then all but three players were disqualified. The umpire screwed the pooch big time. He applied the rule incorrectly. Why is it so hard to fathom that the his error should be corrected and the game played from that point, with West Caldwell up 10-2? Tim, thanks for responding. I respect you opinion, I just wholeheartedly disagree with it.
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Sun Mar 20, 2005, 10:24pm
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The original poster said the score was 10-2 when the HR was hit and the newspaper said the HR made the score 10-2 so I don't know which is right. But the best way to fix this error would be to play from the time of the error, game over if the HR made it 12-2, game continues if the HR made the score 10-2.
W. Caldwell is a 2A school less than a half hour away from S. Caldwell, a 4A school. So this was a non-conference game, and replaying it might not fit into future plans for either team.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005, 06:43pm
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All of these reasons that have been listed are in regards to a live ball. This is not a live ball situation. The ball is not in play. If a ball goes out of the field of play (i.e. in the stands, dugout, or over the fence) it is a dead ball. So all of those rules should be ruled out. If there is a rule in your association about leaving the dugout then there is nothin to discuss, they left the dugout and you took to appropriate action. But this has nothing to do with a live ball and sometimes a warning will suffice. The umpires are not supposed to affect the game, they are supposed to officiate it. Had the umpires not been there, a different team would have won with no objection. A 10-2 ballgame is a game that should just end on its own.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005, 10:09pm
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i don't think that it was the size of his balls but the lack of the size of his brain. around where i umpire there is a team that we call that rule for. this team will walk out and congradulate anyone for making any decent play pretty much, homeruns, sacs, rbi's and so forth. the umpires around the area tend to tell the players that the dirt is off limits or to hold back and let him touch the plate in view of everyone.
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Fri Jul 08, 2005, 11:51pm
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