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Old Mon Jan 24, 2005, 05:57pm
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Re: Re: Yep,

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jicecone:

I think perhaps there is a little disconnect in your view:

I'm guessing here,

R1 and F1 not in contact with the pitcher's plate . . . any type turn is OK, afterall he is an infielder at this time.

R1 and F1 is legally engaged with the pitcher's plate. Set position has not been done, yet. Slow turn of shoulders to look over: OK in FED, NCAA and OBR. Quick turn to look, Balk in NCAA/OBR but OK in FED.

R1 and F1 not only in legal engagement but has also gone to the set position. Quick look, balk in all rules books.

Each of these situations R/H F1's shoulder "opens" to first base.



Tee
I agree 100% with that Tee.

Mabey its the cold up here in the NE that has the brain on freeze or mabey I just don't recall seen that move used over the years.????

Old dogs still learn too.
OK, After further review, the play stands as called by several in this thread.(Except me)

I will charge myself with an official Time Out.

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Old Fri Jan 28, 2005, 03:04pm
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David: I have an even stranger play, one given by Kyle McNeeley of the NFHS rules committee at the TASO state meeting.

B1 pops up in foul territory behind first base. The umpire calls "Foul ball." F3 catches the pop-up. And the answer is:

It's just a dead ball, and the batter stays at bat!
That's completely inconsistent with last year's interp #14:

SITUATION 14: With R1 on first and one out, B2 hits a fly ball down the third-base line. U1 errs and announces “Foul ball,” but F5 catches the ball several feet in fair territory. RULING: B2 is out. R1 may tag and advance at his own risk. (Rule 5-1-1h does not apply on a caught fly ball.)
Last year's Interp #14 has been superceded by 2005 Interp #5.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2005, 07:31pm
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Carl Childress

David: I have an even stranger play, one given by Kyle McNeeley of the NFHS rules committee at the TASO state meeting.

B1 pops up in foul territory behind first base. The umpire calls "Foul ball." F3 catches the pop-up. And the answer is:

It's just a dead ball, and the batter stays at bat!
That's completely inconsistent with last year's interp #14:

SITUATION 14: With R1 on first and one out, B2 hits a fly ball down the third-base line. U1 errs and announces “Foul ball,” but F5 catches the ball several feet in fair territory. RULING: B2 is out. R1 may tag and advance at his own risk. (Rule 5-1-1h does not apply on a caught fly ball.)
Last year's Interp #14 has been superceded by 2005 Interp #5.
Situation 3 is perhaps what you meant. Situation 3 and 4 really confuses this issue. For example, Situation 4 says we can correct an erroneous FOUL BALL call on a HR ball, but Situation 3 says the ball is dead because the umpire called FOUL BALL on one in LF. But foul balls can be caught for outs, so why not call this an out instead of a strike, and treat it like a FOUL BALL that was caught? I know, FOUL BALL means dead ball in FED, by rule. That's the answer to my own question. They really should look at changing the rule, instead of coming out with interps that just confuse things.
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