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We at the Wendelstedt Umpire School received notice last week that one of the emails we sent out regarding a rules interpretation was posted on this forum.
After reviewing the post's contents, we requested that it be removed from the site, which it was. Below we have included the actual correspondence between our school and the emailer, and also between our school and this site. Please take note of the differences. Sincerely, The Wendelstedt Staff -----Original Message----- From: Wendelstedt Umpire School [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Wendelstedt Interpretation To Whom it May Concern: We have recently been informed that a rules question that we answered through our website had been copied to a post on your website, and that our interpretation may have been skewed from its original form. We have included the saved email that we returned to the user who had asked the question. After checking this with the posts on your site, it seems that information from our email was added and deleted from to conform to his/her view on the play in question. Please correct this record. We have removed this email address from being able to submit anymore correspondence to us in order to prevent this from happening again. We have sent him/her an email indicating this loss of privilege. If, in the future, you encounter another person using our site, or our school, as an authority on a position, please inform us of this at [email protected]. Thank you. Sincerely, The Wendelstedt Staff P.S. Please see that this is given to the proper person(s) in charge of the website. ---------- Original Message ------------- Subject: Rules Question Date: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:16:19 (PST) From: "Wendelstedt Umpire School" To: **Deleted for Privacy** Steven, We have recently had a barrage of appeal play questions, and several relating to yours. Rule 7.01 c.b. states "If a runner legally acquires title to a base, and the pitcher assumes his pitching position, the runner may not return to a previously occupied base." There are several conflicting "penalties" for this action of the runner. Some have said that the proper thing to do is to tell the runner that he cannot go back a touch or retouch. We believe that this constitutes a conflict because we are indicating to the defense (whether they already know or not) that the runner is in violation of base running rules. Instead, if the runner begins to return to a previously occupied base, after the pitcher is on the rubber with the ball, he should be declared out. This is permissible under the rules, though there is no specific penalty under rule 7.01 c.b. In order to call an out, the umpire must determine the actions of the runner as running ". . . the bases in reverse order for the purpose of confusing the defense or making a travesty of the game," as written in rule 7.08 (i). Though this play is highly unlikely to occur, the penalty in place is to prevent the offense from pulling "tricks" on the defense (while making an appeal); thus the whole point of rule 7.08 (i). We hope that this helps in your ruling. Sincerely, The Wendelstedt Staff ---------- Original Message ------------- Subject: Data posted to form 1 of http://umpireschool.com/rulesq.htm Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:36:38 -0800 (PST) From: umpschool To: [email protected] ************************************************** ************************* **Deleted for Privacy** Comments: With a runner on first base the batter gets a base hit to right field. The runner from first goes to third, but on the way, misses second. The pitcher gets the ball and steps up on the rubber, believing he must do so in order to appeal. The runner, seeing that there is going to be an appeal, begins to run back to second. Is there something wrong with this, and if there is, how do you, as the umpire, correct it?
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A big thank you to The Wendelstedt Staff for taking the time to clear this up and, it should be to no one's suprise, for acting honorably in protecting both themselves and others from future similar abuse.
Officialforum should follow their lead and likewise revoke Steven's posting privileges and those of anyone who is found to have committed similar acts.
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I concur with Garth's recommendation of removal of posting privileges for the guilty party in this action. How pitiful one's life must be,to go to one of the foremost authorities on interp,and then twist their response to fit one's views.IMHO,I wouldn't want to work with one that boils down to being little more than a fabricator of facts.......
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