Define your umpiring Goals

[chris s]

Originally posted by Tim C
Some of us just finished our 35th season.

Tee

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Damn, Tee........you are being a dick!!!!!

[bbump82]

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
... My point was and remains, discover something you love to do and find reasons to do it. (Reasons - plural.) Life will be better that way.

AMEN!

[David B]

Originally posted by bbump82

AMEN!

Well I don't know about that philosophy. I would have to ask Mike Tyson about that, let's see, several million in debt and can't box ...

Probably time to try something else.

Similiar to a lot of umpires I know. They just LOVE to umpire, but everyone else is wishing they would go ahead and retire.

And for the record, I just finished my 27th season.

Thanks
David

[chris s]

Originally posted by David B

Well I don't know about that philosophy. I would have to ask Mike Tyson about that, let's see, several million in debt and can't box ...

Probably time to try something else.

Similiar to a lot of umpires I know. They just LOVE to umpire, but everyone else is wishing they would go ahead and retire.

And for the record, I just finished my 27th season.

Thanks
David

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Retire, right, I quit!!! Assignor is a ****ing asswipe, I would love to beat the crap outa him. He gets fired by PONY after he gets the Bronco series a year ago, guy is a total ****stick.......I am done.

Been known to finish a fight in less than 15 seconds, pretty good at that!!!! Don't need to go there, TYson is big puss, he be softy.................

[akalsey]

Okay, I'll come clean. I'm a *gasp* Little League ump. I've done everything from 9-10 ball up through big diamond Senior ball. But all under the LL system.

I do it mainly for the kids. Not many people in the league had a good understanding of the rules ("hands part of the bat," "can't steal on a walk," "the runner's out if he leads off") and I did. Couple that with the fact that we had many games where there were no umps at all, and it was an easy decision to start umping.

I started with the equipment the league owned and when I got sick of ill-fitting masks that weighed 100 pounds I bought some decent stuff. Not WV Platinum or anything, but some good Honigs gear. It's amazing how much the kids and parents appreciate having someone who looks like a real ump. Most of the time we have a dad strap the gear over his clothes and stumble his way through a game.

So my goals are to give the kids a good game. I'm there to encourage a love of baseball. At the same time, I strive to get better. I'd love to ge to the point where I could do varsity HS ball, but I expect I'd still do a lot of Little League.

I'm in this for the kids. The same reason I lead Cub Scouts, and coach ball and soccer.

[WindyCityBlue]

akalsey,

Thank you. You understand what I first proposed.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
akalsey,

Thank you. You understand what I first proposed.

Many understood as well, we just disagreed with your point of view.

You cannot tell others why they should or why they should not do something. It is not your place to do so. It is not my place to do so.

Peace

[WindyCityBlue]

Actually R.i.t., I can do whatever I want, within the constraints of the law. Many others agreed with my opinion and said so, you didn't and the spot in the back of the class is still yours. Pay attention and we'll include you in our discussion next time.

[JRutledge]

You are just more evidence why people completely shy away from your organization. You do not know me, what do you say to those you do not like that actually know you?

You are a wonderful spokesperson for UMPS. I hope the individuals that read your responses are proud of your professionalism.

Peace

[cbfoulds]

Originally posted by JRutledge:
You cannot tell others why they should or why they should not do something. It is not your place to do so. It is not my place to do so.

Peace

And yet, Rut, here you are, telling WCB what and why he shouldn't do something. I know that Windy & others like to push your buttons, but maybe if you didn't rise to the bait EVERY DAMN TIME, they'd eventually get bored and give up. Please, try to let it go, at least when it's not directed at you by name, huh?

Peace back at ya' --

Carter

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by cbfoulds

And yet, Rut, here you are, telling WCB what and why he shouldn't do something.

I am not telling him what to do at all. I am saying that he cannot make decisions for anyone that decides to take up officiating or umpiring. If there are people that want to umpire for the money that is up to them. WCB can do whatever he likes. But it is not his place or my place to tell others why they take up what is essentially a hobby.

Originally posted by cbfoulds
I know that Windy & others like to push your buttons, but maybe if you didn't rise to the bait EVERY DAMN TIME, they'd eventually get bored and give up.

Push buttons? Just another example of how many here take this place a little too seriously. If the clowns here "push my buttons,” then I really need to rethink my officiating goals. I have officiated in places that most here would never go, so I think if someone thinks I get upset over what is said here, they need to find another hobby.

Originally posted by cbfoulds
Please, try to let it go, at least when it's not directed at you by name, huh?

Who said I was responding because it was about me? I was responding first of all because I can. I was responding because the individual is trying to suggest that no one understood his point of view, instead of just understanding that we disagreed with it. I am not alone in this. And even if I was, it is still not the point of view that everyone holds. No one can tell you why or why not you can do something. They can try, but it surely does not mean we have to agree.

Peace

[cbfoulds]

Rut:
I get it, truly. And, FWIW, I'd like to see Windy & Co. let it go, too.

But for someone who professes not to get torqued anytime certain folk post anything, you seem to, as I said before, rise to the bait every, single, damn, time!

And as for "Who says I'm responding 'cause it's about me?"
Heck, wasn't that what I wrote? - "Let it go, at least when it's not directed at you by name"?

Actually, I don't take this place very seriously; which is why it amazes me that folks who supposedly have no "buttons" to be pushed get their shorts in a twist about who posts what, and persist in flogging issues that can never be resolved authoritatively, simply to "make it clear" that the "other side" is a bunch of dopes.

Of course you CAN post anything you please, and so can your "friends" Windy, HHH, etc.: and I'm sure y'all will continue to do so. I'm just wondering, since you know that anything you say, WCB will disagree with, and vice versa, once you've made your point, and the others have made theirs, is it finally a question of who has the last word?

Peace, back at ya'...

--Carter

[WindyCityBlue]

Counselor -
Great argument...the bait analogy...terrific, too.
Most of the time I am fishing for trophies and find that my time is being wasted unhooking bottom feeders.

I'm sure that you've read enough of my worthy posts to recognize the difference. All I've ever asked is that if you have a different opinion, 1) be eloquent enough to state it, 2) have the resources to support it (i.e. experience or rule book excerpt, 3) have the courage of your convictions when the challenge caomes back. I have had disagreements with very few members here, R.I.T. and Jurassic seem to stir from the deep every time a line gets wet. Others may disagree with some of my ideas, but have never taken it personally. Philosophical differences I encourage, but arguing for the sake of seeing your own (often poorly constructed) sentences is not.

From what I've been reading here over the last two years, I'm not alone in this thinking. I hope you've noticed that on too many occassions, I will post an intelligent, positive response to a query only to have R.I.T. grab the hook and start shaking. You'd think that hook would start to hurt after a while.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by cbfoulds
But for someone who professes not to get torqued anytime certain folk post anything, you seem to, as I said before, rise to the bait every, single, damn, time!

Is someone coming through the computer screen and kick my ***? Is someone going to do more than just run their mouth? What is going to happen but chatter on a discussion board? I have been here for years and not one time has anything I said affected me personally in real life in a negative way. I have never had one person approach me and say anything negative about my posts. They might laugh at how people react; I have yet to meet someone that is emotionally affected by what we talk about here. I guess if I respond that I have be in constant pain over what is said. Windy lives right around my area and all he has done is run his mouth. He has never emailed me, what he thinks of me did not affect my umpiring. Nothing this year was different because he started running his mouth. I was still called to work baseball all summer long and did what I do every year, turn most of it down. So if I am such a bad umpire and official and those word affect me, it surely has not prevented my schedules from growing.

Originally posted by cbfoulds
I'm just wondering, since you know that anything you say, WCB will disagree with, and vice versa, once you've made your point, and the others have made theirs, is it finally a question of who has the last word?

I ignore a lot of WCB posts and others. But I will never shy away from a topic that I find interesting or have an opinion on. I do not care who is posting their opinions. But there are many here that will always use my name when I could give a damn about the topic. If that makes them happy, I hope they continue. But when I officiate a game, I can never reference this board and the people on it a get more credibility as a result. And since WCB lives in my area, I can never reference him or his organization and gain more credibility from it. So if someone thinks all this back and forth means anything, I guess not much is going on in their life. At best this is reality TV behind a computer. Great for entertainment purposes, but I am not personally affected if someone is kicked off the island.


Peace

[cbfoulds]

Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Counselor -
Great argument...the bait analogy...terrific, too.
Most of the time I am fishing for trophies and find that my time is being wasted unhooking bottom feeders.

I'm sure that you've read enough of my worthy posts to recognize the difference. All I've ever asked is that if you have a different opinion, 1) be eloquent enough to state it, 2) have the resources to support it (i.e. experience or rule book excerpt, 3) have the courage of your convictions when the challenge caomes back. I have had disagreements with very few members here, R.I.T. and Jurassic seem to stir from the deep every time a line gets wet. Others may disagree with some of my ideas, but have never taken it personally. Philosophical differences I encourage, but arguing for the sake of seeing your own (often poorly constructed) sentences is not.

From what I've been reading here over the last two years, I'm not alone in this thinking. I hope you've noticed that on too many occassions, I will post an intelligent, positive response to a query only to have R.I.T. grab the hook and start shaking. You'd think that hook would start to hurt after a while.

Yeah, but I've also noticed you spending a lot of time "chumming" [to continue the analogy] for Rutfish.

Got no problem with arguing: I do it for a living, and find it mentally stimulating, presuming we get beyond: "IS! ISN'T!! POO_POO HEAD!!!!!!" - that I get from listening to my kids.

Guess the crux of what I wrote was the part about maybe you [& a couple others] would get bored and quit if Rut stopped being such a willing and ready participant. Guess you are astute enough to figure out why I addressed my comments to Rut, and not [at least directly] to you guys.

Oh, well: I've tried [twice]. Just hope that with the apparent coming demise of "the OTHER" site, we won't have to plow thru too much flaming to get to the informative stuff. Suppose all will cope, whatever happens.

--Carter