Pitch Lodged in Umpire's Equip @ HP

[isneths]

Here's one I had in a LL game (Williamsport rules)....

With myself being PU, R1 @ 1st, F1 (P) pitches and ball becomes lodged between my chest protector and my arm. R1 advances to second legally. I then call dead ball.

Using Williamsport rules, which of these would have been the correct call?

a] Dead ball, runner back to first (my initial call)
b] Live ball, runner at second (BU interp assuming I was in play)
c] Dead ball, runner awarded second (after discussion w/ my assignor, who would have ruled it ump interference)

[jicecone]

Originally posted by isneths
Here's one I had in a LL game (Williamsport rules)....

With myself being PU, R1 @ 1st, F1 (P) pitches and ball becomes lodged between my chest protector and my arm. R1 advances to second legally. I then call dead ball.

Using Williamsport rules, which of these would have been the correct call?

a] Dead ball, runner back to first (my initial call)
b] Live ball, runner at second (BU interp assuming I was in play)
c] Dead ball, runner awarded second (after discussion w/ my assignor, who would have ruled it ump interference)

1. This is a normal LL rule which is pretty much the same in ALL rule books. Williamport Tournament rules are no different for this because they follow LL rules except for things like pitching regulations, make-up of teams and other speacialty rules not covered or different than the rule book.

2. Listen to your assignor.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by isneths
Here's one I had in a LL game (Williamsport rules)....

With myself being PU, R1 @ 1st, F1 (P) pitches and ball becomes lodged between my chest protector and my arm.

Does this mean that if you raised your arm the ball would fall out? If so, that's what you should do and choice B (below) is the correct answer.

If not, choice C is correct.

R1 advances to second legally. I then call dead ball.

Using Williamsport rules, which of these would have been the correct call?

a] Dead ball, runner back to first (my initial call)
b] Live ball, runner at second (BU interp assuming I was in play)
c] Dead ball, runner awarded second (after discussion w/ my assignor, who would have ruled it ump interference)

[isneths]

Hey bob.

I called dead ball with the ball still lodged in said space (amazing but true). Does that make a difference?

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by isneths
Hey bob.

I called dead ball with the ball still lodged in said space (amazing but true). Does that make a difference?

Yes. If the ball would have fallen out, you screwed the pooch and should return the runner to first.

IF the ball remained lodged, the choice C is still correct.

[LDUB]

Originally posted by isneths
Hey bob.

I called dead ball with the ball still lodged in said space (amazing but true). Does that make a difference?

Wouldn't the ball fall out when you put your hands up to call time?