Ball hits runner

[BigCat]

BigCat has not umpired baseball in many moons. Runner on first, first baseman plays in front of bag. There's a runner on first. Ground ball goes past first baseman, second baseman has no real play on ball. Ball hits runner. Runner called out because ball hit him. I don't think that's right if ball passed a fielder and no other had chance to make play. Appreciate anybody up on current rules...

[Welpe]

Which rule set?

In NFHS, you would be correct. In OBR, runner has to be directly behind the fielder that the ball passes when he is hit to be absolved of interference.

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by BigCat

BigCat has not umpired baseball in many moons. Runner on first, first baseman plays in front of bag. There's a runner on first. Ground ball goes past first baseman, second baseman has no real play on ball. Ball hits runner. Runner called out because ball hit him. I don't think that's right if ball passed a fielder and no other had chance to make play. Appreciate anybody up on current rules...

If that's what happened, you are correct!

If ump judged F4 could have made a play, different story.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Which rule set?

In NFHS, you would be correct. In OBR, runner has to be directly behind the fielder that the ball passes when he is hit to be absolved of interference.

I don't know what OBR is. Thought it was universal that if ball passed a player and no other could make play runner safe. Been long time since I've seen rule book.

[Welpe]

OBR stands for Official Baseball Rules which is what MLB and MiLB play under. Many youth leagues adopt a version of it for their use as well.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Which rule set?

In NFHS, you would be correct. In OBR, runner has to be directly behind the fielder that the ball passes when he is hit to be absolved of interference.

Welp, I don't get the "directly behind person." I don't know the current rules but I would think the key would be if any other defender had chance to make a play.

Directly behind would seem to mean the ball went through 3's legs. Just seems weird to me.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Welp, I don't get the "directly behind person." I don't know the current rules but I would think the key would be if any other defender had chance to make a play.

Directly behind would seem to mean the ball went through 3's legs. Just seems weird to me.

Wendelstedt suggests at the pro level that if F4 is not playing in then a ball that goes thru or by F3 and hits the runner is interference because F4 should still have a chance at the ball. "By" includes a diving F3's glove.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Welp, I don't get the "directly behind person." I don't know the current rules but I would think the key would be if any other defender had chance to make a play.

Directly behind would seem to mean the ball went through 3's legs. Just seems weird to me.

The OBR rule (which is defferent from FED, which is different from NCAA) is:

The runner is out if he's hit by the batted ball.

Except: If the runner is directly behind the fielder, then the runner should expect the fielder to make the play, so the runner is not out.

Except (to the except): If another fielder had a play, then the runner is still out.

[BigCat]

Thanks all.