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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 10:14am
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What do you guys like to focus on during summer ball? Mechanics? Beginning to get back in shape? Judgement?
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 10:30am
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D). All of the above.

I try to treat every game the same and give them what they pay for - no matter how much they pay. Seriously.

That being said, I like to work on things my evaluators have told me I need to improve on. And for me, currently, that is - slow down, use crisp mechanics, and watch the game interupters.
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 10:40am
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seeing more plays
mechanics
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game interrupters
communication with partner
watching my area only

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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 12:23pm
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What is a "game interrupter"?
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 12:31pm
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What is a "game interrupter"?
A ball bounding over from an adjacent court.
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 12:42pm
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A ball bounding over from an adjacent court.
Also known as a career-stopper.
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 12:46pm
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What is a "game interrupter"?
I know we have talked about this before.......

Sometimes I get critiqued for stopping the game when I shouldn't - a quick whistle if you will or a game interrupter as told to me (maybe better game management, patient whistle, discretion, or experience are better terms).

An example of one I have done several times and need to be better at (as told to me by my evaluators). A1 has the ball in his backcourt and is defended by B1. A1 does a crossover dribble and goes by B1. B1 fouls A1 by bumping him off his mark on the way by changing A1's speed, rhtyhm, and direction. But, after a second or so, A1 has "played through" the contact and is going down court. Me - TWEEET!

As asked to me - "why?" I have "interrupted the game" or penalized A's ability to play through the contact (even though at the time B's contact caused B an advantage) and now I have brought the ball back to the spot to inbound, therefore taking away A's advantage.

I've gotta be more patient!
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 01:30pm
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As asked to me - "why?" I have "interrupted the game" or penalized A's ability to play through the contact (even though at the time B's contact caused B an advantage) and now I have brought the ball back to the spot to inbound, therefore taking away A's advantage.

I've gotta be more patient!
Or it could be a play where the is not a good time to call something or the play that we are calling does not exist. I hear this used much more about plays where there is nothing or not appropriate.

For example I have heard people say calling 3 seconds when the ball is on the rim, two seconds late.

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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 02:42pm
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I know we have talked about this before.......

Sometimes I get critiqued for stopping the game when I shouldn't - a quick whistle if you will or a game interrupter as told to me (maybe better game management, patient whistle, discretion, or experience are better terms).

An example of one I have done several times and need to be better at (as told to me by my evaluators). A1 has the ball in his backcourt and is defended by B1. A1 does a crossover dribble and goes by B1. B1 fouls A1 by bumping him off his mark on the way by changing A1's speed, rhtyhm, and direction. But, after a second or so, A1 has "played through" the contact and is going down court. Me - TWEEET!

As asked to me - "why?" I have "interrupted the game" or penalized A's ability to play through the contact (even though at the time B's contact caused B an advantage) and now I have brought the ball back to the spot to inbound, therefore taking away A's advantage.


I've gotta be more patient!
Sooooo....a "game interrrupter" is really calling illegal contact for something that was incidental contact? Seeing that incidental contact versus a foul for illegal contact is always a judgment call, what are they really teaching you here?

Why not just say "Hey you, read the rule book and follow NFHS rule 4-27". For instance re: for the red-highlighted part above, replace that with R4-27-3--"Similarly, contact which does not hinder the opponent from participating in normal defensive or offensive movements should be considered incidental." That concept would seem to be a helluva lot easier to teach someone imo.

You're right that the key is being more patient. But all your evaluators are really telling you is to just take a second longer to decide whether the contact was incidental or illegal. Why not just say that to the person being evaluated? Iow, KIFSS!
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 01:13pm
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What is a "game interrupter"?
See grunewar's definition above. However, when I used the term, I was thinking something completely different. i.e. paying closer attention to who and where ball will be inbounded as a result of a time out. Game re-set stuff.
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 01:22pm
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All good things to work on. I'm looking forward to being evaluated. I haven't been formally evaluated since the first game of last season.
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 02:47pm
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However, when I used the term, I was thinking something completely different. i.e. paying closer attention to who and where ball will be inbounded as a result of a time out. Game re-set stuff.
Game re-set stuff? As in what game re-set stuff?

I don't have a clue as to how "game re-set stuff" can be a "game-interrupter". Can you explain?
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 10:43am
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I don't have to watch anything!

In a tournament last weekend I had four games with a particular partner during which I didn't need to watch anything. We had two whistles on every on-ball call in my primary. It was fantastic.
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Old Wed Jun 16, 2010, 11:43am
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For me, I find working on mechanics fairly difficult during the summer because of the nature of the games and my partners. Generally less formal. So I tend to focus on other things to challenge myself.

1. Sprinting hard (even though my partner may not) to keep myself in reasonable shape.
2. Good time to try something new or work to improve mechanics that don't depend on your partner like signals etc...
3. Focus on keeping track of arrow in your head so you won't need to peek at the table
4. Keep track of team fouls so you will know when the bonus is in effect before the table tells you.
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