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Originally Posted by BigCat
No idea what your experience level is as a player,coach or referee. I can tell you as a player, a college, high school and even grade school coach ..and a referee that when I watch lower level games the issue is NEVER that too many whistles are blown. Always, not enough.
And as far as incidental contact--If I'm driving to the hole and you have a hand or hip on me I will continue on...and to everyone in the gym it appears that that hip or hand isn't affecting me. I can assure you that it does. Incidental contact is meant to be contact that is accidental. If you are riding me to the basket that's not incidental.
Finally, referees stay at lower levels because they don't blow the whistle enough. Or their mouth gets them in trouble. That is my opinion/experience. Blow the whistle more than less. Everyone will have to make their own decision.
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No, this is not incidental. They even changed the rule to reflect this.
In my experience, more will get stuck for calling too much than for calling too little. That's just my experience. There are obviously other reasons officials don't progress, and some certainly are too whistle-shy.
jtheump's stages need revised, IMO. I've said for years that the stages I've seen are:
1. Afraid to blow the whistle. This normally lasts only a few games, sometimes a bit longer.
2. Calling everything. Not just the handchecks, but every single contact they see regardless of whether it had any impact on the play.
3. Recognizing the incidental contact rule and swinging back the other way. Letting too much go.
It takes time to get this right, but that doesn't mean officials shouldn't try. I see it as a necessary stage of development in order to get the right balance. Some certainly get stuck in this stage, or they get stage/fright as they get better games and they don't blow the whistle.
4. Equilibrium and good judgment between incidental and illegal contact.