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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Let's say no dribbles are involved. A1 ends his dribble and makes a move to the basket. B1 bumps/hits him while he is in the act of shooting. The official holds his whistle to see if A1 can make the lay-in. A1 gets a good shot at it, but misses. Total time, maybe two seconds. Can you blow the whistle as soon as you see the shot is not going in and put A1 at the line for two?
That is the question I wanted an official from the SEC to answer.
I personally do this quite frequently. If the shot goes, I have nothing. If he misses, I call the foul late.
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It is a foul when the contact is illegal or puts the shooter at a disadvantage. Even disadvantaged shooters make the shot sometimes. Just because the result was a made shot doesn't mean that at a disadvantage didn't take place.
Also, aren't you setting a tone that illegal contact on the shooter is allowed? I know as a player, when I do something that doesn't get called, I'll do it more and more.
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Easy there Coach! Remember the context of what Chuck and I were discussing. These are plays from one of Chuck's games at a camp in which there was some contact, but not a great deal, either as a player was making a move past his opponent for a clear scoring opportunity or as a player made a lay-in. His partner called a foul on the play. The evaluator, J.B. Caldwell, a D1 official in the SEC, questioned a quick whistle on these type of plays with comments such as, "Could he have finished that play if you'd let it go?" "If you'd held your whistle for half a second, could he have made a lay-up instead of shooting 1-and-1?"
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There's your problem right there,Nevada. You're talking about a defender fouling a player that's IN the act of shooting. Then you're asking J.B. Caldwell to comment on whether you should call a foul that occurs BEFORE the act of shooting even starts.Apples and oranges! There's a big difference between the two- that difference being in one case you're holding up on your whistle to see if a scoring opportunity will occur,and a completely different case when they are already in the scoring opportunity.You don't get 1-1 for being fouled in the act of shooting,Nevada.
Gotta agree with the Coach on this one!
[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Aug 2nd, 2003 at 02:39 AM]