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OK, you guys got it. The answer obviously is that they both were wrong - no pitch is required.
I didn't get into the discussion, but I realized later that I was mistaking this with the call of the pitch when a batter steps out and the umpire refused to call time. There you allow the pitcher to throw and call ball/strike depending on the position of the ball. So I had to go to the rule book to get myself clear.
Now - isn't there a rule somewhere - maybe different rule book - maybe Baseball - where you have a pitcher throw and it is called a strike regardless of it's location? Or is this another old myth that won't go away.
Mike - do you know my partner? "This sounds like one of your veterans who doesn't go to the appropriate clinics or already knows everything, so they go more to socialize than actually learn how to umpire a ball game."
How 'bout fly ball caught outside the foul lines. "FOUL - CATCH!" In his world it is a foul ball caught for an out. When we get into discussion about "foul ball is dead ball" or "foul ball is a strike" (when less than 2 strikes), or "you can't get an out on a foul ball," it doesn't make a difference. He has situations where foul ball is dead, and where it is not! This is the latter, because he will allow a runner to advance on a foul ball caught for an out.
This happened last night. 2 strikes on batter, then foul tip. Hands go up and "FOUL - BATTER IS OUT!" Oh yes, a foul tip is a foul ball! But this one isn't dead ball. I just grimace and turn away.
I'm BU in "A", ball hit to fence. I've got the B-R all the way to 3B; I coming into 3B looking to the outfield for the throw. I run into someone - it's my partner! He says "I've got 3B; you are supposed to peel off at 2B and go home." That one I have finally trained him to stay home.
But - in spite of his stubborn idiosyncrasies , he is a very good umpire and I enjoy working with him.
WMB
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