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		| Originally posted by LDUB I say it is the 5 or 10 second violation.  How often do you see a guy taking the ball out, and the cout gets up to 4, and he lofts a high arc pass to someone 30 feet away.  Many officials stop counting when the ball is released, when they should be waiting for the ball to be touched.
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 This would be an example of an offical getting it wrong,and making it hard for the officials who get it right-like Tim Roden above.
Your version of the 5 second throw in rule was changed about 25 years ago,LDUB.Count now stops on release by thrower-in.You're right on the 10 second count going backcourt to frontcourt,though. Welcome to the board,btw.