[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

At a recent rules discussion with newer officials, we were looking at the rules for free throws and I noticed something that struck me as odd and so I'd like to pose it here and see if it really is odd or if I've misread something.

So 8-1-2 talks about how to handle a delay following a time-out. You use the RPP and put the ball in play. Then it says that if either team continues to delay, a technical foul shall be called. (My rulebook actually says it shall be "ruled", but that sounds suspiciously like an IAABO edit.)

So following a time-out, the free throw shooter, A1, remains huddling with Team A at the sideline and does not come to the free throw semi-circle to attempt his/her throws. In this case, we all agree that we put the ball on the floor inside the semi-circle and begin the 10-second count. Eventually, a violation is called on the shooting team (either 10-seconds or entering the semi-circle, it doesn't matter for the example). So far, so good.

Now, we instruct A1 to come to the FT line for the second try and still s/he refuses. 8-1-2 seems to say that we call a technical foul at this point. No more RPP.

However, 9.1.2 Situation A seems to give a different result. In that example, Team B fails to fill the required lane spaces, and the RPP is used to administer the first FT, which is successful. Team B continues to huddle and the official again applies the RPP. The technical foul is only applied if A1 misses the 2nd FT and Team B refuses to fill the spaces for a third time.

Are these contradictory? Or at least confusing? Or am I reading 8-1-2 incorrectly?

I'd like to get some thoughts and/or clarification. Thanks.

In the second scenario, when the shot goes in there is no violation penalized. It is delayed but ignored when ball goes in. In effect it is not a violation. Had the shot been missed you would penalize the violation with another FT. If they still aren't in place it is a T. If you actually penalize a violation and the same team violates again it is a T. Thx