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Old Fri Jul 25, 2003, 05:02pm
Warren Willson Warren Willson is offline
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Unhappy Re: Warren was misinformed - enough is enough!

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Originally posted by Jim Porter
For example, in my post where I pointed out that neither Garth nor you were the creators of the longest thread on this forum, I wasn't at all implying you guys were lying. I don't even believe you were lying. I, in fact, believe the two of you to be so self-absorbed that you neither knew nor cared that someone else entirely was responsible for the honor.

Now, I might not be running around flaming or name-calling or using these message boards to blow off steam. However, that doesn't mean I like you or Garth, and it doesn't mean I'm Mr. Nice Guy. I still think you're one of the biggest jerks I've ever met on the Internet, and Garth one of the biggest hypocrites. I just don't get upset about it anymore.
I have no wish to prolong this "discussion", which is why I didn't challenge the "facts" when you first posted your now deleted "correction" over who had the longest thread. I don't want to appear to be taking sides on the matter either. The problem is, Jim, that you have misinterpreted the "facts".
  1. Peter Osborne (aka HHH) didn't claim to have the longest thread, only that a thread he initiated went to 7 pages and 100 posts. That post challenged my off-handed comment about "a record 5th page". He said that at that time Garth claimed THAT was a record, but he didn't claim that "honor" for himself. In fact he pointed out that he had only posted once in that thread, after the initiating post.

  2. Garth didn't claim to have the longest thread either! He said he "believed" that "honor" belonged to Peter. He clarified that his belief was only anecdotal and not based in fact. He clearly didn't want to end up in a silly argument about who had the longest thread.
So neither of those posters actually claimed they had the longest thread, or knew for a fact who did. That was YOUR construction on the original posts. Your now deleted post may have had a humorous aspect to it, but my recollection is that it was also liberally laced with "needling" and sarcastic remarks aimed at Peter and Garth.

Now I don't know Peter Osborne at all well, much less understand his motivation for writing particular things on discussion boards like this, but I certainly don't believe he is the sort to publicly lay claim to feats that can easily be disproved. He's not that silly. On the contrary, he's usually much cleverer than many give him credit for.

I DO feel that I know Garth Benham a fair bit better. You and I, Carl Childress and Garth, all shared a good relationship at one time. I know that Garth spoke up in private against sanctioning you on the UmpiresTalk e-mail listserv that we co-moderated, when your illness was at its peak and people who didn't understand what you were going through were demanding your ejection from the community. From what I know of Garth he is NOT an unusually self-absorbed person. Neither is he hypocritical, in my experience.

You have a history with Peter (Ozzy) Osborne, Garth and Blaine Gallant. You have admitted that. I believe your history has colored your view here. Please let us have an end to the public airing of old, private dirty laundry. With very few exceptions, the posts have been positive and constructive since I returned. I for one would prefer things continued in that vein.

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