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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
What does PC have to do with this? A player dribbling a basketball has PC without holding the ball. Are we pretending now that the process of gathering a dribble negates PC?
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Exactly the opposite. The point is that there are only two ways to have PC....by dribbling or holding. There is no third option. Unless you are willing to state that the player loses player control for some span of time during the transition from dribbling to holding, the end of the dribble (which occurs when the player has the ball come to rest in one or both hands) is, by definition, the beginning of the hold. When the ball comes to rest in even one hand the dribble has ended, the hold has begun, and the travel rules come into effect. If you would not let the player turn the ball back over for another dribble, you have deemed they are holding the ball by the definitions in the book relating to how the dribble ends. There is no requirement that the "hold" be with two hands securely in front of the player. Once the ball is in the player's hand and it isn't going back down, he's holding it.
I don't mind if we're not calling it that way. Lets just be honest that we're calling it different than the book defines it to be and stop pretending that a player holding the ball isn't holding the ball.