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Originally Posted by RKBUmp
Illegal pitch, coach can argue all he wants, the rule book says the pitcher must take position with the hands separated, and while separated simulate taking a signal. If you judge the hands coming together is immediate, then it is an illegal pitch.
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If she steps on with her hands separated and brings them together how do you know she didn't take a signal while bringing them together? Local color might dictate how you call this, but unless she was rushing through the pitch I'm a little skeptical about judging from this that she didn't simulate taking a signal.
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Originally Posted by RKBUmp
HBP strike, if it caught the zone it is a strike. If it hit her after that it is a dead ball strike.
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I don't think this is right. If a pitch goes through the strike zone and then hits a batter outside the strike zone (with no swing) it's a HBP. ASA 2005 references since that's the E-copy I have:
Rule 7-6-A-2. The batter is out if touched by a third strike "while it is in the strike zone".
Rule 7-4-G. A strike is called for each pitched ball swung at and missed that touches the runner.
Rule 7-4-I. A strike is called when the ball hits the batter in the strike zone.
The only real conflict is 7-4-A. A strike is called for each legally pitched ball entering the strike zone. But if you want that to be a conflict, you'd have the same problem with a ball that was hit after being in the strike zone.