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Old Wed Dec 27, 2000, 09:12pm
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Re: Re: A 3rd Party perspective ...

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Originally posted by Hayes Davis
Prior to that time he [Childress] has regressed from a staunch "feint means separating hands, drawing arm back in cocking motion, making arm motion in direction of base with ball in hand BUT not releasing the ball" definition of feint. After all, THIS is what anyone with more than a week's worth of baseball skills knows to be a feint and what he was alluding to in a different post. Since those original bold statements that he cannot back up, he has progressively backpedaled.
Davis is not content to bring his name calling to this board. (I challenge him to find any message on this board where I applied a name to him. On the other hand, he's called me senile and impotent.)

That's not enough. Now he stoops to out-and-out falsehood! He quotes me above as saying "feint means separating hands, drawing arm back in cocking motion, making arm motion in direction of base with ball in hand BUT not releasing the ball." He knows that most people will not check back into the thread to see if he is telling the truth.

He is not.

I made three comments about "feint" as it applies to FED rules: (1) "But he [F1] must couple a step to an occupied base with arm motion, whether it's a feint or a throw." (2) "A feint in FED includes an arm motion." (3) How can you 'simulate a pitch or a throw' without arm motion?"

You cannot. Davis claims I'm applying my opinion to one base only, where it should be applicable to all. Well, he clearly didn't mean first: You can't feint (with or without arm motion) to first. That leaves third (where the original question lay) and second.

Someone argued the pitcher steps to second without arm motion. In 50 years of watching baseball, I never saw a pitcher turn toward second without lifting his arms in some semblance of a pick-off move. Otherwise, the turn means nothing to the runner.

Davis argues that I have backtracked from my original statement. Not for an instant! Under FED rules, a feint is "a movement which simulates the start of a pitch or a throw to a base." (2-28-5) I repeat what I have said all along: Can one simulate a throw to a base without arm motion? That's a question Davis has not answered.

Finally, Davis asserted that I've ignored the difference "all these years" in the BRD. Section 332 in the edition he has covered the FED definition. It never became important until the PBUC in December 2000 specifically said that an OBR pitcher must step before a legal feint and that a legal feint TO THIRD does not include arm motion.

I would have allowed the Admin's word to be sufficient, were it not for Davis and his deliberate misquoting of my statements. I will not permit that to go unremarked.

Surely everyone who checks the thread will now know the type of adversary he is and treat him accordingly. I certainly shall.
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